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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 29, 2013 10:34 pm

Go take your medicine you appear flustered and paranoid.
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Maximus » Thu May 30, 2013 8:22 am

Viewpoint wrote:Go take your medicine you appear flustered and paranoid.


Come VP, lets stop talking none sense as we are just derailing threads. Lets try and stick to the topic and contribute.

.....and, I am only predicting, what is likely to happen next. It is Turkey that is doing all the doing and given her track record, behavior and attitude towards others, it would not surprise me in the slightest if people start plotting her demise behind her back.

You reap what you sow, what goes around comes around, its karma, as people say.
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu May 30, 2013 8:45 am

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Go take your medicine you appear flustered and paranoid.


Come VP, lets stop talking none sense as we are just derailing threads. Lets try and stick to the topic and contribute.

.....and, I am only predicting, what is likely to happen next. It is Turkey that is doing all the doing and given her track record, behavior and attitude towards others, it would not surprise me in the slightest if people start plotting her demise behind her back.


Your viewpoint towards Turkey is warped therefore biased due to your past influences but if we return to the thread you need to understand that the minsdet of many nations is inflenced by the past and the time when Turkey was an empire and ruled many other nations so the plotting is nothing new. What you have to look at is the Turkey of today and how it is developing which is far better than many countries in the EU.....you want and pray for the demise of Turkey because you have a grudge and hatred towards them due to 1974 and events that followed. Although I understand you pain you have to understand that we cannot look at a nation that stepped up to the plate for us and continues to supports us negatively. You are the rapist and they are the police....you show no signs of chnaging and they still protect us from you, without them you would be free to do as you wish, if you were us how would you feel living with a known rapist and no security.
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Maximus » Thu May 30, 2013 8:51 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Go take your medicine you appear flustered and paranoid.


Come VP, lets stop talking none sense as we are just derailing threads. Lets try and stick to the topic and contribute.

.....and, I am only predicting, what is likely to happen next. It is Turkey that is doing all the doing and given her track record, behavior and attitude towards others, it would not surprise me in the slightest if people start plotting her demise behind her back.


Your viewpoint towards Turkey is warped therefore biased due to your past influences but if we return to the thread you need to understand that the minsdet of many nations is inflenced by the past and the time when Turkey was an empire and ruled many other nations so the plotting is nothing new. What you have to look at is the Turkey of today and how it is developing which is far better than many countries in the EU.....you want and pray for the demise of Turkey because you have a grudge and hatred towards them due to 1974 and events that followed. Although I understand you pain you have to understand that we cannot look at a nation that stepped up to the plate for us and continues to supports us negatively. You are the rapist and they are the police....you show no signs of chnaging and they still protect us from you, without them you would be free to do as you wish, if you were us how would you feel living with a known rapist and no security.


You make it difficult, if not impossible to agree with you. Your perceptions of yourselves in the present day and your interpretation of your own history is very, very different from the reality.
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Lordo » Thu May 30, 2013 10:53 am

maximuimmu you are confusing vp with yourself. your history is crap.
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Maximus » Thu May 30, 2013 11:23 am

Lordo wrote:maximuimmu you are confusing vp with yourself. your history is crap.


I agree that the Ottomans were crap. So crap that western powers had to dismantle them and their empire. Do you agree that the Turks, their heirs, are just as crap today as they have been throughout history?

Can you see that Turkish behavior today is no different from their Ottoman forefathers? Do you therefor agree that Turkey should be dismantled too?
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby B25 » Thu May 30, 2013 11:40 am

Totally and fed to the dogs!
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu May 30, 2013 11:52 am

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Go take your medicine you appear flustered and paranoid.


Come VP, lets stop talking none sense as we are just derailing threads. Lets try and stick to the topic and contribute.

.....and, I am only predicting, what is likely to happen next. It is Turkey that is doing all the doing and given her track record, behavior and attitude towards others, it would not surprise me in the slightest if people start plotting her demise behind her back.


Your viewpoint towards Turkey is warped therefore biased due to your past influences but if we return to the thread you need to understand that the minsdet of many nations is inflenced by the past and the time when Turkey was an empire and ruled many other nations so the plotting is nothing new. What you have to look at is the Turkey of today and how it is developing which is far better than many countries in the EU.....you want and pray for the demise of Turkey because you have a grudge and hatred towards them due to 1974 and events that followed. Although I understand you pain you have to understand that we cannot look at a nation that stepped up to the plate for us and continues to supports us negatively. You are the rapist and they are the police....you show no signs of chnaging and they still protect us from you, without them you would be free to do as you wish, if you were us how would you feel living with a known rapist and no security.


You make it difficult, if not impossible to agree with you. Your perceptions of yourselves in the present day and your interpretation of your own history is very, very different from the reality.


Thats how you are programmed so of course even if we gave the whole island to you on a plate you would still have problems accepting because the offer was put forward by what you have been brain washed to believe is your enemy. You need to get a grip this island belongs to both of us you have no more right over it than I do. We tried sharing it 1960-1974 and look what happened, we have been living side by side 1974-2013 peacefully.....its obvious which option is the best for everyone, we reconfirm this everyday by displaying differences we can never bridge as the chasm is just to wide....you see me as a insignificat minority and I demand my rights under international agreements as an equal partner...so anyone can clearly the vast difference in our start points. If you can not accept me as an equal partner the current divide can continue as long as we are alive, but if one day you wake up and say we should accept TCs as equals and build and island where there are 2 administrations wher epeople are free to choose which admin they want to live under then we may make progress until that time comes we can continue on as is.
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Maximus » Thu May 30, 2013 12:03 pm

VP, I agree with you that separating "Greeks" from "Turks" is the best solution for long term stability and peace. But, our differences, as to how this should be implemented diverge, dramatically.

"Turks" have a tendency to revert back to their Ottoman mean. This is something which must also be addressed, but only "Turks" can change their own behavior..
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Re: Could this be the beginning of the Turkish Spring?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu May 30, 2013 1:32 pm

Maximus wrote:VP, I agree with you that separating "Greeks" from "Turks" is the best solution for long term stability and peace. But, our differences, as to how this should be implemented diverge, dramatically.

"Turks" have a tendency to revert back to their Ottoman mean. This is something which must also be addressed, but only "Turks" can change their own behavior..


You continiously push the debate into the realms of tit for tat which is counter productive...why are you so concerned about Turkey and her tendancies shouldnt you be concentrating more on this island and how a solution can be found?
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