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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 10, 2013 10:36 am

Lordo wrote:have a read this too betragulluimu. when will you wake up.

http://alt.news.cyprus.narkive.com/cBlZ ... ss-murders

:lol: What's that rubbish link, old boy?

Do you even realise that Cyprus NG and EOKA B is not the same? :roll:
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby Lordo » Fri May 10, 2013 10:54 am

kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:have a read this too betragulluimu. when will you wake up.

http://alt.news.cyprus.narkive.com/cBlZ ... ss-murders

:lol: What's that rubbish link, old boy?

Do you even realise that Cyprus NG and EOKA B is not the same? :roll:

another blind beggar.

So your 600 Greek Cypriot soldiers held back the mighty Turkish army in
Kyrenia and also managed to create mass graves at the same time or
these murderers were the so called civilian Greek Cypriots. Was it not
the Greek soldiers from Greece who tried to topple makarios before the
Turkish soldiers came to the island? Perhaps they were civilian too.

GREEK CYPRIOT SOLDIER CONFESSES TO SANDALLAR AND MURATAGA MASS MURDERS
Haravgi of July 21, 1998 reported that, the mass murder of villagers
from Sandallar and Murataga by Greek Cypriot soldiers in 1974 has for
the first time been admitted by a Greek Cypriot soldier who fought
during the 1974 Turkish intervention.
The Greek Cypriot soldier Nikos Geneia's recollection of events in
July 1974, under the title "The Coup File - The Coup Through The Eyes
of a Greek Cypriot Reserve Officer" states that, as the Greek Cypriot
forces retreated before the advancing Turkish troops, what he saw at
Sandallar and Murataga was so horrible that he said he would never
forget it as long as he lived.
Geneia continued by saying that, EOKA B terrorists were digging mass
graves with bulldozers and burying the innocent elderly Turkish Cypriot
women and children who were brutally murdered, and how one of the EOKA
B terrorists later bragged to the passing soldiers, "we have done our
duty."
Another confession from a Greek Cypriot that could not live with
the burden of the atrocities committed by the Greeks in Cyprus.
Unfortunately nothing will change, despite of all the confessions, as
in the case of the missing in Cyprus, the lies of the Greek side will
continue and certain British MPs and EU politicians will continue to
support these liars.

you will never be forgiven.
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 10, 2013 12:28 pm

Lordo wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:have a read this too betragulluimu. when will you wake up.

http://alt.news.cyprus.narkive.com/cBlZ ... ss-murders

:lol: What's that rubbish link, old boy?

Do you even realise that Cyprus NG and EOKA B is not the same? :roll:

another blind beggar.

So your 600 Greek Cypriot soldiers held back the mighty Turkish army in
Kyrenia and also managed to create mass graves at the same time or
these murderers were the so called civilian Greek Cypriots. Was it not
the Greek soldiers from Greece who tried to topple makarios before the
Turkish soldiers came to the island? Perhaps they were civilian too.

GREEK CYPRIOT SOLDIER CONFESSES TO SANDALLAR AND MURATAGA MASS MURDERS
Haravgi of July 21, 1998 reported that, the mass murder of villagers
from Sandallar and Murataga by Greek Cypriot soldiers in 1974 has for
the first time been admitted by a Greek Cypriot soldier who fought
during the 1974 Turkish intervention.
The Greek Cypriot soldier Nikos Geneia's recollection of events in
July 1974, under the title "The Coup File - The Coup Through The Eyes
of a Greek Cypriot Reserve Officer" states that, as the Greek Cypriot
forces retreated before the advancing Turkish troops, what he saw at
Sandallar and Murataga was so horrible that he said he would never
forget it as long as he lived.
Geneia continued by saying that, EOKA B terrorists were digging mass
graves with bulldozers and burying the innocent elderly Turkish Cypriot
women and children who were brutally murdered, and how one of the EOKA
B terrorists later bragged to the passing soldiers, "we have done our
duty."
Another confession from a Greek Cypriot that could not live with
the burden of the atrocities committed by the Greeks in Cyprus.
Unfortunately nothing will change, despite of all the confessions, as
in the case of the missing in Cyprus, the lies of the Greek side will
continue and certain British MPs and EU politicians will continue to
support these liars.

you will never be forgiven.

Fuck your sandals and your murats you Turkish goat herder!
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby SKI-preo » Fri May 10, 2013 3:18 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
claret21 wrote:The Zurich agreements gave the T/Cs a 30% share in government.
From the beginning it was doomed to fail, since also giving the minority a veto meant that no section could govern, on one hand the majority could not pass any laws without the consent of the minority and of course neither could the minority do so. Unworkable from the start.
Lets just see whether any other nation on earth has ever had such a constitution, to the best of my knowledge none ever did.


Did your research tell you why the veto was given? whether you agree with it or not is part a of a binding agreement between the 2 partners. This does nto mean it cannot be changed but it has to exchanged for something which will make the TCs want to give it up, to date the Gcs have offered nothing in comparision or close...the last attempt was the AP and we all know what happened there. the GCs want this veto removed so they can have free range to rule the whole of Cyprus using the "numerical" advantage without Tcs effectively having say in their own country, forcing a once owner of the whole island into minority status in their homeland which is what you also support. You really need to also look at it from our perspective, the TCs never say they will not compromise and BBF is a comprmise from taksim which remember we have physically achieved and could continue for a long time to come.


The Veto was given for one reason and one reason only Makarios was caught dogging by Mi6 so they blackmailed him
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 10, 2013 3:33 pm

SKI-preo wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
claret21 wrote:The Zurich agreements gave the T/Cs a 30% share in government.
From the beginning it was doomed to fail, since also giving the minority a veto meant that no section could govern, on one hand the majority could not pass any laws without the consent of the minority and of course neither could the minority do so. Unworkable from the start.
Lets just see whether any other nation on earth has ever had such a constitution, to the best of my knowledge none ever did.


Did your research tell you why the veto was given? whether you agree with it or not is part a of a binding agreement between the 2 partners. This does nto mean it cannot be changed but it has to exchanged for something which will make the TCs want to give it up, to date the Gcs have offered nothing in comparision or close...the last attempt was the AP and we all know what happened there. the GCs want this veto removed so they can have free range to rule the whole of Cyprus using the "numerical" advantage without Tcs effectively having say in their own country, forcing a once owner of the whole island into minority status in their homeland which is what you also support. You really need to also look at it from our perspective, the TCs never say they will not compromise and BBF is a comprmise from taksim which remember we have physically achieved and could continue for a long time to come.


The Veto was given for one reason and one reason only Makarios was caught dogging by Mi6 so they blackmailed him


Is that the name of one of the choir boys?
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby Lordo » Fri May 10, 2013 3:36 pm

SKI-preo wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
claret21 wrote:The Zurich agreements gave the T/Cs a 30% share in government.
From the beginning it was doomed to fail, since also giving the minority a veto meant that no section could govern, on one hand the majority could not pass any laws without the consent of the minority and of course neither could the minority do so. Unworkable from the start.
Lets just see whether any other nation on earth has ever had such a constitution, to the best of my knowledge none ever did.


Did your research tell you why the veto was given? whether you agree with it or not is part a of a binding agreement between the 2 partners. This does nto mean it cannot be changed but it has to exchanged for something which will make the TCs want to give it up, to date the Gcs have offered nothing in comparision or close...the last attempt was the AP and we all know what happened there. the GCs want this veto removed so they can have free range to rule the whole of Cyprus using the "numerical" advantage without Tcs effectively having say in their own country, forcing a once owner of the whole island into minority status in their homeland which is what you also support. You really need to also look at it from our perspective, the TCs never say they will not compromise and BBF is a comprmise from taksim which remember we have physically achieved and could continue for a long time to come.


The Veto was given for one reason and one reason only Makarios was caught dogging by Mi6 so they blackmailed him

believe in myths why dont you, makarios was told that tcs as a founding nation and had every right to the veto and if he did not agree with it cyprus will be divided. but he had better ideas. accepted start a war crush them when they rise up and walla veto has gone.
eynigede san don gunduron do shillon dje efaen do gatsoshiro. enna do fade bale gavolle isasdin delya belli.
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 10, 2013 7:34 pm

...it takes courage for this man to speak up.

it takes bigger courage to consider the Truth. Lordo, you can paint pictures ugly all you want, but as i recall other soldiers, Turkish, have done the same thing. to deny this fact is Ignorance, to use facts to colour a way for more Hatred to grow is worse, do govern yourself accordingly.
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 10, 2013 7:38 pm

...and if it wasn't for Makarios, the island would have been torn in two, is that what you're saying Lordo?
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby Lordo » Fri May 10, 2013 8:15 pm

rw i have never deniad what terkey has done but this is a different scale. to go into 3 villages and kill every single person, behead 2 boys then ry to burn them and then bury them in a mass grave. the worst aspect is the denials of the gcs here. it is beyond belief.

did terkish army actually kill everybody in any village, i dont thinks so.

as far as makarios is concerned being there or not would have made no difference. gcs at the time were drunk on the idea of enosis rather than independence.
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Re: My "biased" opinions as per VP/Lordo

Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 10, 2013 8:16 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...it takes courage for this man to speak up.

it takes bigger courage to consider the Truth. Lordo, you can paint pictures ugly all you want, but as i recall other soldiers, Turkish, have done the same thing. to deny this fact is Ignorance, to use facts to colour a way for more Hatred to grow is worse, do govern yourself accordingly.


Confess your own sins, why deny or bypass them. Is this a GC thing where when you are found out of have done something wrong you make excuses by saying but so and so did it so we can to. You GCs need sincerely own up to your own shit and maybe others will follow.
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