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[claret21]

claret, you express yourself well, and you bring me much humour, i must say, whoever you are, it is a pleasure to know you, what is important and interesting are the facts. Lordo, you drag out tragedy when it suits "you", vp, you make it "personal", both of you do not make fair representations, to keep things the way they are.

...and again, i'll ask the same question, still relevent, "where is the Greek Constituency?". can anyone answer why it should not exist, seriously?

Thank you sir.
In a court of law the evidence has to be presented to the jury, propaganda and misinformation are not permissible, hard facts are.
I have now gone beyond the number of posts I originally set my self as a target. I have decided, in view of repetitive requests to reveal personal information, to continue for a little while longer.
No one else, forgive me if Im wrong, has been requested to offer personal details, I have nevertheless posted my private email and any inquisitive "forumer" who wishes to know more about me is more than welcome to drop me an email, I shall respond provided of course the inquirer also divulges personal details.
It makes no difference whether I'm English, Greek or Turkish Cypriot. What I have posted is based entirely on research carried out at some length and taking into account international forums such as the UN, the EU, and other well known such platforms.
Those that consider my views biased are themselves extremely biased and oblivious of international recognized ethics that determine beyond question that any nation member of the UN is a bona fide state such as the RoC, contrary of course to the fact that Turkey, the occupier of the northern parts of Cyprus, buries its head in the sand and refuses to recognize a nation that the entire world recognize. If by making a factual observation is considered by some as biased, this is felt so because they them selves are biased.

[Maximus]

This thread is turning into another case in point; The recognised and legitimate government of the RoC does not need to lift a finger to keep the "TRNC" unrecognised.

whichever person or contingent spreads the lies of the "TRNC" does it all by himself and will not gain recognition for himself or the psuedo state through propaganda, myths and fanatical fascist indoctrinations. No one will recognises such views based on discrimination and delusions of grandeur to cover up an invasion, ethnic cleansing and land grab.

[Viewpoint]

This thread is turning into another case in point; The recognised and legitimate government of the RoC does not need to lift a finger to keep the "TRNC" unrecognised.

whichever person or contingent spreads the lies of the "TRNC" does it all by himself and will not gain recognition for himself or the psuedo state through propaganda, myths and fanatical fascist indoctrinations. No one will recognises such views based on discrimination and delusions of grandeur to cover up an invasion, ethnic cleansing and land grab.

That day will dawn just as it did on the 20th July 1974.

[Viewpoint]

claret, you express yourself well, and you bring me much humour, i must say, whoever you are, it is a pleasure to know you, what is important and interesting are the facts. Lordo, you drag out tragedy when it suits "you", vp, you make it "personal", both of you do not make fair representations, to keep things the way they are.

...and again, i'll ask the same question, still relevent, "where is the Greek Constituency?". can anyone answer why it should not exist, seriously?

Thank you sir.
In a court of law the evidence has to be presented to the jury, propaganda and misinformation are not permissible, hard facts are.
I have now gone beyond the number of posts I originally set my self as a target. I have decided, in view of repetitive requests to reveal personal information, to continue for a little while longer.
No one else, forgive me if Im wrong, has been requested to offer personal details, I have nevertheless posted my private email and any inquisitive "forumer" who wishes to know more about me is more than welcome to drop me an email, I shall respond provided of course the inquirer also divulges personal details.
It makes no difference whether I'm English, Greek or Turkish Cypriot. What I have posted is based entirely on research carried out at some length and taking into account international forums such as the UN, the EU, and other well known such platforms.
Those that consider my views biased are themselves extremely biased and oblivious of international recognized ethics that determine beyond question that any nation member of the UN is a bona fide state such as the RoC, contrary of course to the fact that Turkey, the occupier of the northern parts of Cyprus, buries its head in the sand and refuses to recognize a nation that the entire world recognize. If by making a factual observation is considered by some as biased, this is felt so because they them selves are biased.

Your posts especially when angered gave you away, the terminology you used was standard GC brain washing insults and innuendos, so really you gave yourself away, again you prove to be untrustworthy and a liar as it was you that offered up personal details to reveal on this forum at post number 100 not us, so to turn around and ask the same is not only arrogant but down right rude. Last you need to do a lot lot lot more research as what you have is not even half the picture, you have a very one sided perspective ignoring the partnership rights of TCs which are recognized under international agreements giving us a weight or 50% eg Annan Plan in deciding the future of this island.

[claret21]

claret, you express yourself well, and you bring me much humour, i must say, whoever you are, it is a pleasure to know you, what is important and interesting are the facts. Lordo, you drag out tragedy when it suits "you", vp, you make it "personal", both of you do not make fair representations, to keep things the way they are.

...and again, i'll ask the same question, still relevent, "where is the Greek Constituency?". can anyone answer why it should not exist, seriously?

Thank you sir.
In a court of law the evidence has to be presented to the jury, propaganda and misinformation are not permissible, hard facts are.
I have now gone beyond the number of posts I originally set my self as a target. I have decided, in view of repetitive requests to reveal personal information, to continue for a little while longer.
No one else, forgive me if Im wrong, has been requested to offer personal details, I have nevertheless posted my private email and any inquisitive "forumer" who wishes to know more about me is more than welcome to drop me an email, I shall respond provided of course the inquirer also divulges personal details.
It makes no difference whether I'm English, Greek or Turkish Cypriot. What I have posted is based entirely on research carried out at some length and taking into account international forums such as the UN, the EU, and other well known such platforms.
Those that consider my views biased are themselves extremely biased and oblivious of international recognized ethics that determine beyond question that any nation member of the UN is a bona fide state such as the RoC, contrary of course to the fact that Turkey, the occupier of the northern parts of Cyprus, buries its head in the sand and refuses to recognize a nation that the entire world recognize. If by making a factual observation is considered by some as biased, this is felt so because they them selves are biased.

Your posts especially when angered gave you away, the terminology you used was standard GC brain washing insults and innuendos, so really you gave yourself away, again you prove to be untrustworthy and a liar as it was you that offered up personal details to reveal on this forum at post number 100 not us, so to turn around and ask the same is not only arrogant but down right rude. Last you need to do a lot lot lot more research as what you have is not even half the picture, you have a very one sided perspective ignoring the partnership rights of TCs which are recognized under international agreements giving us a weight or 50% eg Annan Plan in deciding the future of this island.

Th AP was rejected democratically. The Zurich agreements gave the T/Cs a minority stake of 30% . F A C T !

[Maximus]

Oh LORD,

Can you imagine giving these illegitimates a veto in running the country, look what happened last time. They would veto everything until they get their own way. They will do this either out of spite or to extort benefits from the majority for the absolute minority. Dont forget Turkey forever pulling the strings and meddling in Cyprus internal affairs, looking for the next excuse to ' legally intervene' and commit more atrocities.

Your delusional VP if you think the RoC is going to go backwards towards Turkish persecution to suit a rabid birdbrained ideology such as yours.

You must be a Turkish Sociopath, there are hardly any Turkish Cypriots left in the north.

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, you are Persons, and in Cyprus as Persons you seek the recognition as an equal; this is possible, but it is not what you ask, vp.

as Individuals we are equals, and that is True for everyone.

...why not open yourselves to the other Constituencies as a Constituency, big and small, it would not be hard to settle Territorial Jurisdictions if the question of Sovereignty was not involved. invite the Constituencies to this table, not the Republic, such a unanimous appeal to the State could be possible, as Peoples it would have credibility worthy, as a Republic to consider, and as a result the Republic itself will reform, because the people have representation as Persons, to represent its Citizens as Individuals, better. worthy too to Turkey, if the Republic was free of any discrimination or distinction as a Government recognised, not easily corrupted as a force for any particular Person because they are an overwhelming majority.

Rights vp, you have Rights, what you are asking for is to define your Liberty, in terms of Freedom you cannot ask for any special recognition. you must recognise the value of a Republic as a Turkish Constituency, you must demand that a Greek Constituency must in effect exist, to recognise as equals the same Principals. you, or "you", need the recognition of Greek Cypriots as a Constituency, not the Republic, no one else matters, demand it and it will make clear that a State, an equal to Turkey (or Greece, etc.) for Cypriots as Cypriots, is important to you/"you", it is possible as an aim, too.

...split the baby in half you say; this is no divorce, Cyprus is not property to be divided. my point is that there is an alternative, and we are lucky, with the Modern Age to be Free, rather than the chattel of an ongoing History of subjugation and/or plunder. something we can demonstrate, every one of us, as Men, we are Grateful for with an island that is without borders, as Cypriots Sovereign, and as Persons in harmony. it is not hard to choose, and it is natural, from the Unitary State a Greek State, to a Cypriot State, Bicommunal Bizonal, and a Federation, here is the Honourable compromise.

if you are a "Turk" you speak for your few as though they are the many, no different to any elite, "Greek", or otherwise; but we are talking something bigger, as Cypriots.

[claret21]

Oh LORD,

Can you imagine giving these illegitimates a veto in running the country, look what happened last time. They would veto everything until they get their own way. They will do this either out of spite or to extort benefits from the majority for the absolute minority. Dont forget Turkey forever pulling the strings and meddling in Cyprus internal affairs, looking for the next excuse to ' legally intervene' and commit more atrocities.

Your delusional VP if you think the RoC is going to go backwards towards Turkish persecution to suit a rabid birdbrained ideology such as yours.

You must be a Turkish Sociopath, there are hardly any Turkish Cypriots left in the north.

Your first sentence sir is extremely hostile,you are I hope addressing the two protagonists on this forum and not the entire T/C community.

[Viewpoint]

claret, you express yourself well, and you bring me much humour, i must say, whoever you are, it is a pleasure to know you, what is important and interesting are the facts. Lordo, you drag out tragedy when it suits "you", vp, you make it "personal", both of you do not make fair representations, to keep things the way they are.

...and again, i'll ask the same question, still relevent, "where is the Greek Constituency?". can anyone answer why it should not exist, seriously?

Thank you sir.
In a court of law the evidence has to be presented to the jury, propaganda and misinformation are not permissible, hard facts are.
I have now gone beyond the number of posts I originally set my self as a target. I have decided, in view of repetitive requests to reveal personal information, to continue for a little while longer.
No one else, forgive me if Im wrong, has been requested to offer personal details, I have nevertheless posted my private email and any inquisitive "forumer" who wishes to know more about me is more than welcome to drop me an email, I shall respond provided of course the inquirer also divulges personal details.
It makes no difference whether I'm English, Greek or Turkish Cypriot. What I have posted is based entirely on research carried out at some length and taking into account international forums such as the UN, the EU, and other well known such platforms.
Those that consider my views biased are themselves extremely biased and oblivious of international recognized ethics that determine beyond question that any nation member of the UN is a bona fide state such as the RoC, contrary of course to the fact that Turkey, the occupier of the northern parts of Cyprus, buries its head in the sand and refuses to recognize a nation that the entire world recognize. If by making a factual observation is considered by some as biased, this is felt so because they them selves are biased.

Your posts especially when angered gave you away, the terminology you used was standard GC brain washing insults and innuendos, so really you gave yourself away, again you prove to be untrustworthy and a liar as it was you that offered up personal details to reveal on this forum at post number 100 not us, so to turn around and ask the same is not only arrogant but down right rude. Last you need to do a lot lot lot more research as what you have is not even half the picture, you have a very one sided perspective ignoring the partnership rights of TCs which are recognized under international agreements giving us a weight or 50% eg Annan Plan in deciding the future of this island.

Th AP was rejected democratically. The Zurich agreements gave the T/Cs a minority stake of 30% . F A C T !

You really need to go do a lot more research as the Zurich Agreements which contains the GC signature and is internationally recognized gave the TCs something which is equal to 50% weight, thats why in any future agreement we have this %50 importance factor, why do you think the GCs are working so hard to disregard or erase it?

[Viewpoint]

Oh LORD,

Can you imagine giving these illegitimates a veto in running the country, look what happened last time. They would veto everything until they get their own way. They will do this either out of spite or to extort benefits from the majority for the absolute minority. Dont forget Turkey forever pulling the strings and meddling in Cyprus internal affairs, looking for the next excuse to ' legally intervene' and commit more atrocities.

Your delusional VP if you think the RoC is going to go backwards towards Turkish persecution to suit a rabid birdbrained ideology such as yours.

You must be a Turkish Sociopath, there are hardly any Turkish Cypriots left in the north.

Hello we do have veto rights, you gave it to us. Now everyone knows why you want it removed and its not for the good of the TCs....tell us all you opinion and dont give us the shit about the smooth running of the state, no one buys that.