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[Lordo]

do any of you boys and i know how good your with your links regarding dengtash marash and 1.5 million.

come you know you want to.

[Lordo]

this clearly suggests that varosa has belonged to the tcs. so fat chance that you will get it back.

[repulsewarrior]

...Lordo, i have to ask, are you on something, what is this, voices in your head?

[Lordo]

rw there is a rumour that there is evidence that maras was sold to the brits. no voices just need some information.

[repulsewarrior]

...never heard of "maras", where was this?

[Viewpoint]

...never heard of "maras", where was this?

The closed off area near Mağusa/Famagusta.

[boulio]

look up kibrisli web site to understand better:

[07] KIBRISLI publishes documents proving that all the compensation rights regarding the Evkaf foundation's property were denounced in 1959; Denktas and the Director of the Evkaf try to declare this information to be untrue
Turkish Cypriot daily KIBRISLI newspaper (08 and 09.10.03) publishes a document both in English and Turkish languages proving that the Turkish Cypriot community had renounced in 1959 all its compensation rights regarding the property of Evkaf religious foundation. Under the document are the signatures of the Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktas and the late Vice President of the Republic of Cyprus Fazil Kucuk.
Under the title 'Our people did not deserve this', the paper wrote, inter alia, the following yesterday on the issue: 'With an agreement they made with the colonial administration, they donated to the British all the compensation rights of our people regarding the Evkaf property.

They signed that the Turkish Cypriot community would not demand compensations in return for one million and five hundred thousand sterling pounds. Now they are claiming that they would appeal to court and demand their rights.

It was decided that five hundred thousand pounds would be deposited into an account in 'Turk Bankasi' in the name of Kucuk and Denktas as 'urgent' needs. The two leaders noted in the answering letter they had written that they were accepting the proposal.

In the letter he wrote, the British governor asked (from the two leaders to accept) the commitment that no financial claims would be raised in the name of the Turkish community and the Evkaf. The leaders gave this commitment in return of one and a half million sterling pounds. Meanwhile, it was alleged that Dr. Kucuk did not want to sign this document, but he had been convinced by Denktas. '

Taner Dervis claims in the name of Evkaf that the compensations regarding the Evkaf property only in the closed Varosha area reach 74 billion dollars. The documents published on Genc TV's 'Konusma Zamani' (translator's note: Time to Talk) programme shocked 'TRNC' People are waiting for a statement by Denktas on the issue. '.

Meanwhile, according to Turkish Cypriot daily HALKIN SESI newspaper (09. 10.03), talking yesterday at a joint press conference, the Turkish Cypriot leader Rauf Denktas and the director of Evkaf foundation, Taner Dervis argued that in the agreement signed with the British government it was noted that the claim of Evkaf for compensations regarding its property from the Cyprus Republic had not ceased to exist.

Mr Denktas described the information published in KIBRISLI as 'material for the Greek Cypriots' and added that he could file charges against the paper because of its accusations against him. Mr Denktas distributed also to the journalists a copy of an extract from Ahmet Gazioglu's (Translator's note: Mr Gazioglu is one of Mr Denktas' advisors) book regarding Evkaf. The Turkish Cypriot leader argued also that the 1.5 million sterling pounds were a donation of the British government to the Turkish Cypriot community, as a result of Mr Kucuk and himself. Mr Denktas said that the aid of Britain had been used for the purposes it was given and mainly for Evkaf's immovable property and in the field of education.

Referring to the agreement, Mr Denktas alleged: 'In this document we put our reservations regarding the Evkaf property. That is, Evkaf has not renounced its land. We are not demanding it form the British today. Evkaf has rights before the Greek Cypriots who seized them violently. This is what we are saying'.

Furthermore, Mr Dervis verified the information that the 1.5 million sterling pounds were received by the Turkish Cypriot community and added: 'However, the money was in the category of aid-donation. In return of this money, the Evkaf Administration or any other authority did not renounce its property. In any case, the property of Evkaf could in no way change because of its status, but exchanging it could be discussed'.

Mr Dervis argued that the British had confiscated the property of Evkaf in 1878 and in 1944 they promised that they would pay rent to the foundation. This could be the reason for the donation of the British to the Turkish Cypriot community, clamed Mr Dervis.

Meanwhile, KIBRSILI (09.10.03) writes that Mr Denktas' statements confirmed the information published in the above-mentioned paper and wonders where the text of the agreement is. 'Denktas has hidden from the people the text of the agreement he had signed', argues KIBRISLI adding: 'Instead of this, he tried to present to us as documents the records of the discussions before the agreement and what his advisors wrote based on these records'.

[repulsewarrior]

thanks boulio, interesting reading (again), hope this helps, Lordo.

...but no mention of this place, "maras".

[Lordo]

thanks bulio

rw strange that it does not mention maras/varosa but it may be because it is not just that area and may include other areas efkaf had property in..

[bill cobbett]

This thread is such a waste of time.

The matter of Occupied Famagusta was reaffirmed as recently as December 2011 by the ECHR.

The Illegal Land-Grabbing Regime of "trnc" tried it on with the If It Doesn't Move Anywhere on CY it Belongs to EVKAF Pollocks at the ECHR in the matter of Lordos et al v. Turkey, which was concerned with claims in Occupied Famagusta.

The ECHR dismissed the rubbish claim in two sentences, re-affirming that land ownership is as per the records of the Land Registry of the Republic and certificates of ownership or kochans issued by said office.

END OF.