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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 07, 2013 4:25 am

Lordo wrote:
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Lordo wrote:are yo not one bit embarrassed about oing to bed with an ethnic cleansing country. have you no shame. your arab friends will not like this one bit.

Who gives a shit... if Cyprus manages to control Israel and Israel is controlling the US then guess who controls Turkey! :lol:

you what. you will control israel as much as a whore controls her pimp. what kind of an arse idea is this. i just believe what you are saying. do you think pigs can fly.


Cyprus and Israel are jointly exploiting their natural resources in a constructive, and legally binding way within their own UNCLOS EEZ. The gas will be processed in Cyprus as well.

Now, there is no chance that Israel is just going to sit idle and let Turkey destabilize the apple cart and jeopardize Israeli interests. Fortunately for Cyprus, its interests align perfectly with Israeli/US interests... :D
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 07, 2013 7:24 am

Germany and the EU were on your side working for you, tell that to your bank depositors. You people are very very small fish and know nothing of international politics, the big boys are the USA Israel and Turkey they will get the cream and you the little drops, plus by the time you get this gas to market we read that there will be alternative gas options which will bring the value of this gas crashing down...so if I was in your position I would concentrate more on reviving my tourism as you are one of the most expensive destinations in Europe.
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 07, 2013 12:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:...if the big boys want your gas they will take it and give you peanuts, just like they have fucked up your banking sector therefore your economy.

The EU did NOT fuck up the RoC's banking sector!

That's a false story that the government is trying to sell to wipe its hands clean of any responsibility.

It wasn’t the EU that allowed a $10 billion state debt to accumulate in Cyprus and it wasn’t the EU that was buying Greek junk bonds losing a further $7 billion!

All the EU did was to refuse lending out Cyprus the exact amount and terms they requested.
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 07, 2013 1:39 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...if the big boys want your gas they will take it and give you peanuts, just like they have fucked up your banking sector therefore your economy.

The EU did NOT fuck up the RoC's banking sector!

That's a false story that the government is trying to sell to wipe its hands clean of any responsibility.

It wasn’t the EU that allowed a $10 billion state debt to accumulate in Cyprus and it wasn’t the EU that was buying Greek junk bonds losing a further $7 billion!

All the EU did was to refuse lending out Cyprus the exact amount and terms they requested.


Hello they could have bailed you out 100% without fucking up your banking sector, but they didnt Germany wanted the Russians out and they got what they wanted, all the hot money is going to Latvia now.....bye bye boom time hello gloom and doom for south Cyprus.
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Get Real! » Tue May 07, 2013 2:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...if the big boys want your gas they will take it and give you peanuts, just like they have fucked up your banking sector therefore your economy.

The EU did NOT fuck up the RoC's banking sector!

That's a false story that the government is trying to sell to wipe its hands clean of any responsibility.

It wasn’t the EU that allowed a $10 billion state debt to accumulate in Cyprus and it wasn’t the EU that was buying Greek junk bonds losing a further $7 billion!

All the EU did was to refuse lending out Cyprus the exact amount and terms they requested.


Hello they could have bailed you out 100% without fucking up your banking sector, but they didnt Germany wanted the Russians out and they got what they wanted, all the hot money is going to Latvia now.....bye bye boom time hello gloom and doom for south Cyprus.

They don’t bloody have to… they’ve got a business to run!

Individuals, companies, and nations get denied loans every day or get a counter offer that is less attractive and we should not expect anything as a given from lenders.

The best remedy is to never put yourself in a position where you need a bail out.
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 07, 2013 4:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Germany and the EU were on your side working for you, tell that to your bank depositors. You people are very very small fish and know nothing of international politics, the big boys are the USA Israel and Turkey they will get the cream and you the little drops, plus by the time you get this gas to market we read that there will be alternative gas options which will bring the value of this gas crashing down...so if I was in your position I would concentrate more on reviving my tourism as you are one of the most expensive destinations in Europe.


At the end of the day, Cyprus did get a bail out. Some of the terms were bad, but that is what happens when you put yourself in this position.

But the big objectives as far as Germany and EU is concerned is to reform the Government and the economy so that there is sustainable growth without building up debt.

You should also understand that Cyprus has seen worse days back in 74 and it bounced back then and it will bounce back again and recover. There certainly is a lot of Oil and Gas so the doom and gloom is short term relatively speaking, because in about 5 years time the Gas will flow.
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 08, 2013 12:28 am

Accept facts you have well and truely been knocked off your high horse superficial wealth times will only get worse in the south before they get any better.....karma is the TCs friend.
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed May 08, 2013 4:39 pm

...there you are mistaken, vp. Karma is no one's friend, Karma is.

let's not forget 1960, no asphalt roads island-wide, no drinking water infrastructure. Cypriots are industrious, and resourceful, this cannot be said of the so called TRNC, or Turkey since it is an occupier with wealth vastly superior to any of the other players. as for the Republic, despite the dysfunction it is saddled with, it demonstrates the capacity of State, and in this respect it has already proven its ability and intent. Turkey refuses its recognition, but it cannot deny its role in the failed state that runs in the north unabated, supposedly an equal, now garbage strewn, penniless and polluted, (without water).

Turkey is doing Cyprus a favor when it comes to Gaz. the 'Zero Friends' policy, favors a second set of relations to counter Turkey's claims. Cyprus, like Lebanon, Israel, and Syria, ((let's not forget Greece) and Europe), represent common Principals, even if there are differences between them, they do not seek to share their wealth, what's theirs is theirs, they seek to maximise their investments in the Capital cost for its exploitation. Turkey does not represent the honest broker, it's belligerence means that it will be the last to join in any common effort, whereas Cyprus has this capacity. furthermore, Security as an issue favours an alternative to Turkish routes, routing points being so important, Turkey offers no more than the lowest price, when it comes to transportation to the EU.
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Get Real! » Wed May 08, 2013 4:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Accept facts you have well and truely been knocked off your high horse superficial wealth times will only get worse in the south before they get any better.....karma is the TCs friend.

We simply jumped from the back of a tall horse onto the back of a shorter horse just so we can jump back up again later.

We are after all the center of the universe… even God says so and God doesn’t lie. 8)
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Re: Turkey wants a solution and our gas

Postby Get Real! » Wed May 08, 2013 4:53 pm

Straight from the Bible…

"And God said unto Loizos… go forth and multiply in the lands of the Choirokitians so that you may inherit the coming kingdom of Europe. And let no false prophet take your identity away from you… for the day you do you will surely lose your land and the wrath of God will befall upon you for you are the guardians of the center of the universe!”
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