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[Viewpoint]

Now we are getting somewhere you appear to have ingrained in your terminology GC rantings which at a guess leads me to believe you are biased thats why you will not reveal anything about your ethnic origins or place of residence. Born here or not I am 100% Turkish Cypriot and love the TRNC, so lets just agree to disagree about the past we will never see eye to eye lets just accept this has fact. The reality of today is that we are and have been divided for nearly 40 years, if we want to unite there has to be a mutual understanding that no side can dominate or manipulate the other, our wiehgt in deciding a solution is just as important as the GCs, so our concerns fears and demands have to be met just as much as the GCs, we will not be bypassed. We have on an international platform proven to the world that we are ready to unite via a UN brokered plan of BBF with politicla equality, what have the GCs done towards finding a solution? they have continoulsy rejected everything put before them as it doesnt serve their ultimate goal of forcing us into minority status by getting rid of rights given to us by internantional agreements to which they have placed their signatures. Whats wrong with BBF with political equality of the 2 states, its middle ground between enosis and taksim?

[claret21]

claret Im seriously having doubts about your ability to understand the difference between minority and partner, we were owners of the whole of this island with rights under the 1960 agreements which give us veto....do you know what a veto is? No one can take this away unless we agree, so get it into your thick skull that we are not just a minority we are indigenous owners of this island who will never give up their rights for minority status in a Gc run state, we have 37% control over the land and if the offers for a solution are not better than what we have today we would rather stay as we are or even unite with Turkey if recognition doesnt come. Never forget the political panorama continously changes todays unrecognized countries can be recongnized oevr night if thats what the big boys want.

In order to compromise we have moved down from full taksim and have accepted the UN baked proposals od BBF with polictical equality of the 2 states, its the GCs who still to this day want to reduce us down to minority states in a GC run state thats why they will never agree a BBF solution.

VP, I seriously believe that you are the one having difficulties in recognizing that in a partnership there exists a minor partner, as indeed in shareholdings in company where again you have major and minor share holders.
The T/Cs were awarded a 30% share under the Zurich agreement, that in itself is evidence that the T/Cs were a minority. You can not change a reality.
I do not wish to go down the historical route and remind you that while the G/Cs have been on the island for a few thousand years the T/Cs a few hundred, So don't give rubbish that your propaganda machine feeds you. The total number of T/Cs in 1960 amounted to 120,000. British figures.
Do also understand that partnerships are not always 50% -50%.
You were not even born in Cyprus, how on earth you personally can claim this island as your own. No VP, Cyprus belongs to the indigenous Cypriots, G/Cs and T/Cs, it just happens that the T/Cs were and always will be a minority.This does not affect their rights or diminishes their right to call Cyprus their country FACT.
You are a Turk, a mainland Turk, your motherland IS Turkey so hop off old boy.

i am so glad your pretence at being independent outsider has stopped. the kind of language you used is what the eoka used in 63 to cause the cyprus problem.
so sling your hook and bugger off where ever you came from m dear.

Lordo, would you care, if you are serious enough, to tell me which part of my language is either biased or untrue.
Put your money where your mouth is. Unsubstantiated rubbish is just that, rubbish, so do me a favour and highlight which of my statements thus far are biased.
I shall wait !!!

[Lordo]

no i am afraid my time with you is up.

i wish you all the best in your research.

[claret21]

no i am afraid my time with you is up.

i wish you all the best in your research.

Safe therefore for me to assume that you were talking pure rubbish.
My research will continue unaffected by unsubstantiated evidence, if one can call rubbish as evidence.

[claret21]

Lordo, on page one of this thread you stated "more like 500 for each side."
You also gave me a number of links to follow, are you now retracting or adjusting your figures of " more like 500 for each side."
Do clarify please.
I too have not got much time before I say farewell, so do hurry please.

[Viewpoint]

claret you have been found out, good luck with your research you need to work harder because so far you have proven to be lacking understanding of the full picture. Goodbye.

[Get Real!]

claret you have been found out, good luck with your research you need to work harder because so far you have proven to be lacking understanding of the full picture. Goodbye.

VP, if the best that you and Lordo can come up with is to dig up the past in the hope that you’ll find some sympathy from foreigners and somehow steal the mountain of international RoC support (which is basically the only “strategy” TCs have ever had) is it any wonder why your community has become redundant?

[Lordo]

Lordo, on page one of this thread you stated "more like 500 for each side."
You also gave me a number of links to follow, are you now retracting or adjusting your figures of " more like 500 for each side."
Do clarify please.
I too have not got much time before I say farewell, so do hurry please.

good bye and good luck.

[Lordo]

claret you have been found out, good luck with your research you need to work harder because so far you have proven to be lacking understanding of the full picture. Goodbye.

VP, if the best that you and Lordo can come up with is to dig up the past in the hope that you’ll find some sympathy from foreigners and somehow steal the mountain of international RoC support (which is basically the only “strategy” TCs have ever had) is it any wonder why your community has become redundant?

dont you worry about the tcs gr. they will last longer than your kind my friend. now you will see how economic suffocation affects populations. now lets see in 10 years what will happen to the gc population. remember this post.

[Viewpoint]

Well said Lordo they still havent worked out that they are in the shit big time, you GCs need another 10 years to claw your way back, if you dont get any further knock backs from the big boys.