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Piratis,

first please try pursuade people like ProudToBeGreek to be willing to live together with Turkish Cypriots. Please try to tell them to stop spitting their racist orgy of words, then you would be at least justified in accusing Eric for not being willing to live together with GCs.

And in fact I cannot accuse Eric dayi for not wanting to live in one state with people like ProudToBeGreek, I would not either.

lol...BG yor too much. Are you saying me and Piratis havent openly oposed PTBG's views?????

Your so predictable.

[bg_turk]

There are the GC racists, which can be loud at times but they can't put in action much their racism except from an insistent here and there (like in all countries), and then there are the TC racists, who are unfortunately in power with the support of Turkey and they are enforcing their racists actions violating the human rights of 100s of thousands of people.

Oh, no Piratis, they can put their words into actoin, and they have done it many times. But instead of defending the victims of racism, the racist courts of the RoC have absolved the perpetratos of their guilt against the Turks.
Defence seeks to discredit Turkish Cypriot assault claims

In the alleged attack against the Turk Sadik Aktan, we heard testimonies from key witnesses present with the Turkish witness that said the defendant was not involved in the attack at the Nicosia caf?.”

Prosecution attorney Marios Koutsoftas then took the stand and before giving his closing arguments, criticised the way in which the defence was describing Aktan, Veysel and Kemal Toksoy.

His comments immediately brought a response from Charalambous, who stood up and said, The reason I use the word ‘Turk’ is so the court and my dear colleague can identify the race when we are talking about the witnesses.

The judge then called on both lawyers to calm down, adding there was no need for the prosecution to raise the matter.

Would an american court refer to a african-american citizen as the Black Will Smith? Forget about referring, it would not even tolerate such actions. You support the state which these courts are supposed to represent, and at the same time you have the audacity to accuse others of racism.

Concerning your well known views of Talat being a racist and Papadoipolos a true incarnation of the holy virgin mary, I have not much to say since anything I say will alway fall on deaf ears.

[bg_turk]

It is one thing to have racists in your country, it is completely another thing for a court of law to tolerate and ecnourage racism. I hope you see the distinction very clear.

I ask again in which other European court would such actions be tolerated?!

[Piratis]

The racial aspect of this case was brought up by the prosecution. So it was not citizen A attacking citizen B (something very common) but it was a Greek Cypriot attacking a Turkish Cypriot, and this is the point they were pressing and the reason why this case is used by the Turkish propaganda.

Therefore the prosecution is the one who made the claim that race is what matters in this insisted. How could the race being avoided to be discussed then????

It is one thing to have racists in your country, it is completely another thing for a court of law to tolerate and encourage racism. I hope you see the distinction very clear.

No RoC court tolerated or encouraged racism. As I already said Arif made his whole case that he was attacked because of his race and therefore his race was part of the issue.

I ask again in which other European court would such actions be tolerated?!

There are many cases that the lawyers are being provocative to some degree. There was nothing special in this case.

But instead of defending the victims of racism, the racist courts of the RoC have absolved the perpetratos of their guilt against the Turks.

Maybe we should make you the Judge then. Apparently you can make decisions over the interned very easily: The Turks are always right, the Greeks are always wrong. Why do we need courts and lawyers when we have bg_turk?

You support the state which these courts are supposed to represent, and at the same time you have the audacity to accuse others of racism.

Yes, the ones I accuse of racism are real racists. Not because they said 1 word but because of their illegal actions that violate the human rights of 100s of thousands of people because of their race.

[bg_turk]

The racial aspect of this case was brought up by the prosecution. So it was not citizen A attacking citizen B (something very common) but it was a Greek Cypriot attacking a Turkish Cypriot.

Oohh please Piratis, I though you were better than that. Aktan did not raise the case because he was a turkish cypriot, but because he was attacked and seeked justice in his capacity as a citizen of the RoC, which was denied to him because of his ethnic origin.

I would have expected you to say that the attitude of the court was wrong, but stupid me how could I have even hoped.
Dont worry about it, just keep on reciting your rhetoric.

[bg_turk]

So it is the persecution that has raised the issue of race you are saying, HA?

Turkish Cypriot tells court how he was beaten in cafe

Defence lawyer Sotiris Charalambous then took the stand and questioned Aktan’s opinion on the relationship between Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

“If we are all Cypriot as you say we are then could you please tell me in which stand were you sitting during the recent football match between Anorthosis and Trabzonspor in Nicosia. Were you sitting with the Turks or with the Cypriots?”

“I wasn’t at the game”, responded Aktan.

“Did you know that Turkish Cypriots went and sat on one stand shouting slogans at the Cypriots?” asked Charalambous.

His reaction prompted a response from Koutsoftas, who objected to the line of questioning, while the judge reminded Charalambous to keep his questions within the frame of the case.

Charalambous continued, “You say that you do not feel as safe anymore when you go out alone. When you cross over the checkpoints or you are at work, do you have a bodyguard with you?”

“No”, answered Aktan.

“Do you know how many tens of thousands of Turkish Cypriots cross over into the free areas every day to go to work?” asked Charalambous.

“I do not know the exact number”, Aktan again responded.

There was another objection towards the end of the day’s proceedings from the prosecution when Charalambous paused half way through his next question.
“Do you as a Turk….”

“Turk or Turkish Cypriot?” asked the judge.

“What is the difference?” replied Charalambous.

“I object to this your honour?” responded Koutsoftos before the judge called on both lawyers to calm down, while cautioning Charalambous to be more careful when addressing the witness.

[ProudToBeGreek]

Charalambous sounds like a patriot.

[bg_turk]

Yes, the ones I accuse of racism are real racists.

The turks are the real racists, and the greeks fake ones I suppose. Even the mere fact that you attribute the quality of being a real racist to one group just because of their ethnicity, is intrinsically racist.

[ProudToBeGreek]

Yes, the ones I accuse of racism are real racists.

The turks are the real racists, and the greeks fake ones I suppose. Even the mere fact that you attribute the quality of being a real racist to one group just because of their ethnicity, is intrinsically racist.

No, your own state is rooted around racism, you are scared of being Hellenized, that is xenophobia, it is apartheid when you discrimate institutionally against someone because of their ethnicity, why should somebody, because of the misfortune of whom they were born, not be allowed to travel to a certain area? Are you aware that Freedom of Movement is one of the most paramount freedoms in the ECHR?

[cypezokyli]

i dont know who this charalambous is, but his questions appear really stupid. but i guess when u r a laywer u care only about winning- that is your job at the end of the day, and in order to achieve that one could use any means possible.