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[Tony-4497]

Are you a GC/Greek?

Yes (wasn't it obvious?)

[Eric dayi]

Are you a GC/Greek?

Yes (wasn't it obvious?)

Yes it was, I just wanted to make sure I got it right. Thanks.

[Piratis]

Eric, as I already said during the intercommunal conflict both sides have lost some 100s of people. In your propaganda attempt you can post names, stories, pictures etc of your casualties (and your imaginary casualties) but this will not change the fact: both sides had about the same number of casualties during the intercommunal conflict. How can you then call this a "genocide"? If you call your some 100s of casualties as "genocide", then how should we call the 6000 casualties that we had during the invasion? How should we call (apart from ethnic cleansing) the 200.000 people that you forced out of their homes in 1974, and you still deny to them their right to live in their own land? Oh, I remember, you call that a "peace operation"

For those of you that dont know much about the 1974 Cyprus peackeeping mission turned invasion of Cyprus, this pig and his terrorist EOKA militant buddies including the military junta then ruling greece massacered and raped thousand of Turkish Cypriots. That led to Turkey being forced into saving its citizens from being further victims of genocide at the hands of the greek cypriots. Turkey is there now and our brave soldiers will not allow that massacre to occur again

This is a good example of the imaginary casualties that I talked above. Such event never happened. The TC that were killed in 1974 was a very small number that were killed after the invasion had started as a retaliation by some GCs (and not the Cyprus government)

[Nikiforos]

What Sampson, Grivas and Makarios said proves without a shadow of a doubt that you Greeks tried to genocide us Turkish Cypriots.

Stop lying for Gods sake, the world doesn’t believe your lies any more.

Eric, as you know (or should know, the Turks are THE MASTERS OF GENOCIDE. Turks committed GENOCIDE against the Armenians in the early part of the 20th century. In the 1950's, they committed ETHNIC CLEANSING against the Greeks remaining in Istanbul.

Not only did the Turks write the book on how to commit genocide, a great many Turks today admire the genocidal monster, Adolf Hitler. Hitler's Mein Kampf was a BESTSELLER in Turkey earlier this year. Were Turks looking for pointers to perfect their techniques against Greeks and Kurds?

[zan]

Nikiforos

Eric, as you know (or should know, the Turks are THE MASTERS OF GENOCIDE. Turks committed GENOCIDE against the Armenians in the early part of the 20th century. In the 1950's, they committed ETHNIC CLEANSING against the Greeks remaining in Istanbul.

It is a well known fact that Greeks were here before every one and invented everything. OH! except for plumbing.(see Minoan culture on Crete)

Not only did the Turks write the book on how to commit genocide, a great many Turks today admire the genocidal monster, Adolf Hitler. Hitler's Mein Kampf was a BESTSELLER in Turkey earlier this year. Were Turks looking for pointers to perfect their techniques against Greeks and Kurds?

There was a rumour spread, possibly by the publishers to promote sales (or Hitler is planning a comeback) that the Helenistic war machine was on the move, so people decided to arm themselves with a little bit of knowledge on what to expect.

[Svetlana]

Gentlemen, Gentlemen,

Please calm down! Please try to win arguments with logic and supported opinion rather than calling others 'Liars' and resorting to verbal abuse.
There is too much 'I am always right, they are always wrong' developing; which is very boring for others to read.

There really are two sides to most stories and much more 'grey' than 'black and white' in this world, please think about that when posting.

lana

[zan]

well he started it

[Softliner]

Wow. A post goes wild....

I asked a question (and for help and information) and got two answers.
Thanks to Piratis and bg_turk.

The rest of the (up to now) 26 replies has completely nothing to do with my question and seems to me like the extension of a disput of some old acqaintances.
Some Questions:
1. Is there any movement? Something like getting over everlasting points of view (which are not able to argument in an online forum?).
2. Are there some people just looking for any statement where they can post their own (radical) opinion?

For all the rest: Please keep on trying to refer to my first posting.

To cypezokyli: I am studying in Tübingen; 30 km south of Stuttgart. Anywhere around there?

To Svetlana: Thanks for calming down the boys.

Softliner

[bg_turk]

1. Is there any movement? Something like getting over everlasting points of view (which are not able to argument in an online forum?).

Certainly there has been a lot of movement over the last year.
In the last presidential elections in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, the pro-partitionist, uncompromising and hardliner President Denktash has been ousted, and President Talat who is much more liberal and pro-solution has been elected in his place.
While the TC have chosen a pro-solution president, completely the opposite happened on the other side of the island. Fearing that their ex-leader Clerides had made to many concessions, Greek Cypriots elected the hardliner nationalist Papadopolous. He actively campaigned against the Annan unification plan and despite the fact that the failure of the last plan was due to his intransigence, he still refuses any dialogue with Turkish Cypriots.

2. Are there some people just looking for any statement where they can post their own (radical) opinion?

Of course, there are such people everywhere. In fact this forum is a good example of that. People keep on reciting their views, and it continues ad infinitum.

[Main_Source]

Certainly there has been a lot of movement over the last year.
In the last presidential elections in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, the pro-partitionist, uncompromising and hardliner President Denktash has been ousted, and President Talat who is much more liberal and pro-solution has been elected in his place.
While the TC have chosen a pro-solution president, completely the opposite happened on the other side of the island. Fearing that their ex-leader Clerides had made to many concessions, Greek Cypriots elected the hardliner nationalist Papadopolous. He actively campaigned against the Annan unification plan and despite the fact that the failure of the last plan was due to his intransigence, he still refuses any dialogue with Turkish Cypriots.

Talat is anything but pro-solutionist. He's jut more sneaky than Denktash. Tpap offered to make concessions to help createa unity between the two communities...Talat flatly refused as h's sole aim was to be granted semi recognition of the illegal state he supposedly runs. The only reason why Talat wants the Annan plan so much is because it was heavily biased towards the Turks and legalised the invasion, as well as granted the pseudo state recognition. GC had every right to vote down such a plan, which would essentially mean they had more rights in any of the EU cpuntries then in the north part of their ancestrol home.

Please dont take crap such such nationalist Turks that have invaded this site literally.