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Postby Lordo » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:02 pm

This makes very interesting reading from this publication. read it and weep boys read it and weep.

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... bject_map={%2210200927699425077%22%3A491844687536445}&action_type_map={%2210200927699425077%22%3A%22og.likes%22}&action_ref_map={%2210200927699425077%22%3A%22scn\%2Ffb_ec\%2Fdivided_they_fall%22}
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Maximus » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:14 pm

Here is the most popular reply in the comments section.

The persistence of your misinformation around the Annan plan is becoming tiresome.
Greek-Cypriots did not reject the Annan plan because they already knew they would join the EU. The Annan plan was rejected because:
- it failed to guarantee the safety of Greek Cypriots,
- it included no provisions for removal of turkish troops and allowed further military intervention by Turkey,
- it legitimized the settlers living on Greek property,
- and ABOVE ALL it denied Greek refugees the right to recover the property taken from them by Turkey (200,000 Greek Cypriots were forced from their homes).

In fact, while turkish Cypriots would have had full right of return, the plan denied to all Greek Cypriots rights enjoyed by all other EU citizens (right of free movement and residence, the right to apply to work in any position, the right to vote)

Furthermore, the Annan plan disregarded the Geneva Convention of 1949, section III, article 49, which prohibits colonization by an occupying power. Article 49 states in its last paragraph: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies." Since 1974 turkey has occupied over 39% of the island and has stationed 50,000 turkish troops along with an estimated 200,000 settlers from turkey, so the Annan plan would have legitimized these attempt to alter the island's demography.

Above all, the Annan plan guaranteed that turkish Cypriots receive all their basic demands from the first day of implementation, but postponed without guarantee all basic Greek Cypriots' demands who would depend upon the good will of turkey to fulfil the obligations it undertakes.

In short, there is no economic meltdown big enough to force ANY nation to accept such a one-sided solution. Nor does Turkey's past behavior (invasion, occupation of Cyprus, usurping Greek Cypriot property) indicates a trustworthy partner for a gas pipeline through Turkey.
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Lordo » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:21 pm

dont be stupid. tasos babadobillos said on tv say no now and once we are in eu we will use eu to get more concessions. you must have had your dummy in your ears when it was said.
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby B25 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:34 pm

Whether he said it or not, the above that Max has posted is enough to make any GC skin crawl.
It is for those reasons alone that it was rejected.

Bloody hell, we would have to have been stupid to take such an offer. The stupid idiot GCs that did vote in favour were just spineless morons who thought they were going to get back their properties, that would never have done. Who the hell trusts a Turk FFS.
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Maximus » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:59 pm

B25,

I classify any GC ( i suppose this can apply to anyone ) who voted in favor of that plan as dangerous.

That plan was dangerous for the GC's.
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:23 pm

Great article especially the part about
If Mr Anastasiades can show enough negotiating flexibility, Mr Eroglu is hardly in a position to reject a new settlement that grows out of the Annan plan.


Where is Kikapoooo when you want to rub his face in it :lol:
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Maximus » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:34 pm

well, this just complicates things and changes the parameters of the game.

Turkey took a step further in enhancing relations with the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) family on Friday after signing a memorandum of understanding with the group on the sidelines of the Heart of Asia Ministerial Conference in Almaty. Noting that the SCO countries are bound by a common culture that dates back to hundreds of years of living together, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said at a press conference in Almaty on Friday, “We declare our destiny to be the same as that of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization countries.”

Davutoğlu's words were like a message to the European Union.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-313796- ... h-sco.html
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Get Real! » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:40 pm

Lordo wrote:This makes very interesting reading from this publication. read it and weep boys read it and weep.

You must’ve missed the article's punch line…

“If Mr Anastasiades can show enough negotiating flexibility…”

Now read it and weep.
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:52 am

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:This makes very interesting reading from this publication. read it and weep boys read it and weep.

You must’ve missed the article's punch line…

“If Mr Anastasiades can show enough negotiating flexibility…”

Now read it and weep.


Which we all know he wont.
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Re: new solution coming soon

Postby Lordo » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:21 pm

Maximus wrote:B25,

I classify any GC ( i suppose this can apply to anyone ) who voted in favor of that plan as dangerous.

That plan was dangerous for the GC's.

thats because you are an ass and have no respect for peoples human rights its a free country you can vote for what you like but if you dont respect other peoples opinions, you wonder why cyprus problem has lasted for 50 years. with asshole like you it will last 50 billion years.
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