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18 Million Crossings...!!!

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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:14 am

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Mik wrote:Just out of curiosity, I don't want to get embroiled in something that I haven't a passion for, like the two factions debating this subject obviously have. But is there no middle ground that you can all agree on? Cos I'm sure if you guys/girls on here can at least get close surely there is hope for re unification in some form or another that is beneficial for the Island and future generations? Again I am not taking sides and not giving an opinion.


The compromise is BBF with political equality of the 2 states but the GCs will not play ball.

they will vp, now that there in the shit they have to, otherwise there is no gas, they will not even be able to use their fart. and some of them have plenty especially when they see mehmetcik coming towards them.
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:17 am

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Viewpoint wrote:I find your continued reluctance to openly respond to my simple request that you reveal your ethnic origins and location dubious, indicating that you are neither genuine nor impartial in your posts, again you show this by not really responding to direct questions and only using words that cloud and do not put forward anything of substance.

In your above post the operative words you used were "to live peacefully side by side", which we have been been doing for the last 39 years. Let me bring to your attention that side by side ideology changed forever in 1974, whatever the events we have to look at the reality of today and how we can go forward together or as we are. TCs will only go forward united if the solution is better than what they have today, recognized or not they have been living peacefully for 39 years without the problems they faced with GCs in the past, what they GCs are offering is not what the TCs want so why should they accept minority rights in a GC run state? We want a BBF where each state run their own affairs at the local level under a federal unmbrella with political equality in decision making, whats wrong with this its what the UN EU and majority of nations supported via the AP but due to ulterior motives and lack of desire for a BBF the GCs rejected.

Why do you like the GCs oppose a BBF with political equality of the 2 states?

It appears to me VP, that when faced with a voice of reason you are searching for negative and spurious reasons as why this "voice" is imaginary.
Having carried out some research into your posts and those of what appears to be an adversary of yours,Kikapu, I have concluded that if one does not share your views one must either be a G/C or in the case of a Turkish Cypriot as Kikapu is, a traitor. No sir, you are wrong. The facts are there for all to research and drawn their own conclusions.
I reiterate that the political problems facing Cyprus are due to the two devil nations, one the one tyou embrace and the other the one that a large percentage of G/Cs also embrace.
In time I shall reveal my ethnicity, be patient.


The ethenticity of a person tells us a great deal about their upbringing and mindset, to date your comments lean towards you being a GC "diplomat" who is trying to give us the impression that they are unbiased so revealing your ethnic origin would immediate catagorizing youe side and where and with who your priorities lay.

If a person who claims to be a TC has nothing positive to say about his own people and not one negative thing to say about the other side then surely their loyality must be questioned and how far they will go to sell out their own people, Kikapooo has shown us many times that his version of a solution is total submission to GCs demands, he to like support the TCs giving up their internationally recognized rights to be fored into minority status in a GC run state.....do you understand this is something we will never accept? and will do everything in our power to avoid at all costs? Once you grasp this very basic understanding then you may start to make progess into finding a balance between the 2 sides otherwise you to will fall by the wayside as someone who cannot solve the Cyprus problem.
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Maximus » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:20 am

Viewpoint, Just more garbage coming from you.

Many Greek Cypriots would probably vote for kikapu to become president of Cyprus.....what do you think of that? :lol:
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:21 am

Maximus wrote:Viewpoint, Just more garbage coming from you.

Many Greek Cypriots would probably vote for kikapu to become president of Cyprus.....what do you think of that? :lol:


Seeing he is a GC who hates Turks and TCs Im sure they would.
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:22 am

Don't give up on him vp, one day he will see the light.
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Kikapu » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:36 am

Viewpoint wrote:
claret21 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:I find your continued reluctance to openly respond to my simple request that you reveal your ethnic origins and location dubious, indicating that you are neither genuine nor impartial in your posts, again you show this by not really responding to direct questions and only using words that cloud and do not put forward anything of substance.

In your above post the operative words you used were "to live peacefully side by side", which we have been been doing for the last 39 years. Let me bring to your attention that side by side ideology changed forever in 1974, whatever the events we have to look at the reality of today and how we can go forward together or as we are. TCs will only go forward united if the solution is better than what they have today, recognized or not they have been living peacefully for 39 years without the problems they faced with GCs in the past, what they GCs are offering is not what the TCs want so why should they accept minority rights in a GC run state? We want a BBF where each state run their own affairs at the local level under a federal unmbrella with political equality in decision making, whats wrong with this its what the UN EU and majority of nations supported via the AP but due to ulterior motives and lack of desire for a BBF the GCs rejected.

Why do you like the GCs oppose a BBF with political equality of the 2 states?

It appears to me VP, that when faced with a voice of reason you are searching for negative and spurious reasons as why this "voice" is imaginary.
Having carried out some research into your posts and those of what appears to be an adversary of yours,Kikapu, I have concluded that if one does not share your views one must either be a G/C or in the case of a Turkish Cypriot as Kikapu is, a traitor. No sir, you are wrong. The facts are there for all to research and drawn their own conclusions.
I reiterate that the political problems facing Cyprus are due to the two devil nations, one the one tyou embrace and the other the one that a large percentage of G/Cs also embrace.
In time I shall reveal my ethnicity, be patient.





The ethenticity of a person tells us a great deal about their upbringing and mindset, to date your comments lean towards you being a GC "diplomat" who is trying to give us the impression that they are unbiased so revealing your ethnic origin would immediate catagorizing youe side and where and with who your priorities lay.

If a person who claims to be a TC has nothing positive to say about his own people and not one negative thing to say about the other side then surely their loyality must be questioned and how far they will go to sell out their own people, Kikapooo has shown us many times that his version of a solution is total submission to GCs demands, he to like support the TCs giving up their internationally recognized rights to be fored into minority status in a GC run state.....do you understand this is something we will never accept? and will do everything in our power to avoid at all costs? Once you grasp this very basic understanding then you may start to make progess into finding a balance between the 2 sides otherwise you to will fall by the wayside as someone who cannot solve the Cyprus problem.


Claret 21, you will have to excuse VP, because he has a terrible proper understanding of the written English language, therefore he often gets wrong what is written in English. Come to think of it, his Turkish isn't any better. :lol:

You need to understand, that VP and his family are trying to protect their illegal gotten GCs properties in the north and the only way they can keep their illegally gotten loot is either continuation of the Turkish occupation of the north or just like the Apartheid non democratic system with the AP of 2004. You just need to follow the money to see where VPs interests lie. Just because not all TCs are criminally minded like myself who believes in Democracy and equal rights to all citizens of Cyprus under BBF, VP shows us his true venomous self by making baseless accusations of others ethnicity. It is his TMT mentality he has gotten from his "father" Denktash, which VP is a self declared "I'm a partitionist at heart" British born foreigner to Cyprus. VP believes ALL TCs should be criminals in looting the GCs properties in the north and keeping them, and when TCs reject his version of what TCs ought to do, he can't accept the alternative, where those TCs who accept the Rule of Law under the EU Principles. That's in a nutshell who VP is. Not a very pretty picture at all, but it is what it is.
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:31 pm

Another pathetic attempt at defaming my character, as I have said before you just talk a load of shit thats why I aptly named you Kikapooooo, as your policy is to throw shit around hoping it will stick, but the problem for you is that your own shit has a habit of comingback and hitting you directly in the face.

I can accept alternative methodical ideas but yours are nothing but a sell out, a traitor is very good at duping other people and you think you have achieved this, fortunately I can see right through your lies and challenge you on every piece of shit you post highlighting exactly your moronic rantings of someone who knows absolutely nothing about TCs, in fact you stll havent proven you are a TC but even if you were I will always class you as a GC who argues their corner more then them, another form of arse no shit licking which is exactly what you are expert in SHIT. :lol:
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Mik » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:58 pm

Did you know that the cost of keeping the U.N here cost over $56 for the last year? R.O.C paid $17.5 of that..... Think the total bill is just over (approx figures) $1400000000 since the start of the problem..... Not exact on that just caught a glance, whilst researching something else....
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:01 pm

Mik wrote:Did you know that the cost of keeping the U.N here cost over $56 for the last year? R.O.C paid $17.5 of that..... Think the total bill is just over $1400000000 since the start of the problem..... Not exact on that just caught a glance, whilst researching sounthing else....

thats very interesting and what exactly have they done for it.
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Re: 18 Million Crossings...!!!

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:06 pm

...and what were you before the "trnc" existed, vp?
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