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Re: Cyprus’ package of new measures.

Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:16 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:No CG, I do not believe I am alone with these views. Others just love getting on the polly bash band wagon. I will only bash pollies if I believe there are valid reasons to do so.

I am just being honest and trying to be ethical. There is nothing more ethical than being honest!


A president who believes in one rule for himself and another for those that elected him is certainly not acting ethically....


I wouldn't go so far to say that because you DO NOT know exactly what he knew or whether this transaction was his as alleged or whether it was not planned earlier.

But even if your worse is true, I can hardly blame the guy and that is what I am saying.

And as I stated earlier, your logic applies equally to the ECB which is responsible for the haircut and yet is alleged of tipping some of the world's biggest and richest Banks to pull out of Cyprus before it is too late.

So, one rule for the people and another for the ECB that is entrusted to apply responsible fiscal policies for the EU, which of course includes Cyprus.


Of course I don't know...

I didn't say I did know for sure - we were talking hypothetically and you defended him....

If ever there was a case of defending the indefensible this is it! :lol:


Right... :roll:

I don't believe there is anything that needs defending as if no one else would do the same thing, hypothetically speaking.

High horse soap box methinks. :lol:
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Re: Cyprus’ package of new measures.

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:19 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No CG, I do not believe I am alone with these views. Others just love getting on the polly bash band wagon. I will only bash pollies if I believe there are valid reasons to do so.

I am just being honest and trying to be ethical. There is nothing more ethical than being honest!


A president who believes in one rule for himself and another for those that elected him is certainly not acting ethically....


I wouldn't go so far to say that because you DO NOT know exactly what he knew or whether this transaction was his as alleged or whether it was not planned earlier.

But even if your worse is true, I can hardly blame the guy and that is what I am saying.

And as I stated earlier, your logic applies equally to the ECB which is responsible for the haircut and yet is alleged of tipping some of the world's biggest and richest Banks to pull out of Cyprus before it is too late.

So, one rule for the people and another for the ECB that is entrusted to apply responsible fiscal policies for the EU, which of course includes Cyprus.


Of course I don't know...

I didn't say I did know for sure - we were talking hypothetically and you defended him....

If ever there was a case of defending the indefensible this is it! :lol:


Right... :roll:

I don't believe there is anything that needs defending as if no one else would do the same thing, hypothetically speaking.

High horse soap box methinks. :lol:


Okay, you have made your thoughts and feelings on this matter quite clear thanks.
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Re: Cyprus’ package of new measures.

Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:29 pm

It is an interesting moral(?) dilemma.

What would be interesting is to ask other forumers what they would do if they were in such a position of power as the politician in question. I already stated what I might do, with a heavy heart. However, I fear that most forumers would not be honest with themselves because it "lacks integrity and honour"

Maybe you should start a thread to see what everyone has to say if they were in those shoes... :)
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Re: Cyprus’ package of new measures.

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:It is an interesting moral(?) dilemma.

What would be interesting is to ask other forumers what they would do if they were in such a position of power as the politician in question. I already stated what I might do, with a heavy heart. However, I fear that most forumers would not be honest with themselves because it "lacks integrity and honour"

Maybe you should start a thread to see what everyone has to say if they were in those shoes... :)


The point is surely not what forumers would choose but what we expect from our elected politicians?

We cannot accept that our politicians are above the law of the land... We must not allow it to be so...
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Re: Cyprus’ package of new measures.

Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:47 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Paphitis wrote:It is an interesting moral(?) dilemma.

What would be interesting is to ask other forumers what they would do if they were in such a position of power as the politician in question. I already stated what I might do, with a heavy heart. However, I fear that most forumers would not be honest with themselves because it "lacks integrity and honour"

Maybe you should start a thread to see what everyone has to say if they were in those shoes... :)


The point is surely not what forumers would choose but what we expect from our elected politicians?

We cannot accept that our politicians are above the law of the land... We must not allow it to be so...


Yes but I don't expect things from politicians which I think I might be unable to deliver and I don't think anyone else should either. It is only fair.

Having said that, if it were a small amount of money, then I would be disgusted.
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