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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Maximus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:01 pm

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Maximus wrote:You are trying too hard to climb out of a tub full of sh1t, smelling like roses VP.


Your avoiding your own shit which we can all smell, please try being truthful for a change.


Its your turn to be truthful.

Why were your people fighting against your partners at every step of the way since the 50's?

Since the collapse of the ottoman empire; Why are there no Turkish Egyptian partners with a 30% share and a veto power? why are there no Turkish Israelis with the same rights as your people in Israel or Turkish Libyan's, Turkish Syrians, Turkish Lebanon's, Turkish Iraqi's..........?

Do you think your people are a unique nation or race that deserves the racketeering rights you purport to be entitled to?
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:54 pm

I will respond in all honesty once you do.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:52 pm

Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...Eroglu hasn't the chance to win in the next election without the support of Mr. Anastasiades; he can join in the reflection on these auspicious days to say, how glad he is to be a Cypriot; this dinner should be most important to him. Talat can say that, and unlike Denktash he looks good in front of a camera, he is a Socialist, and it is Labour that will move Cyprus, being the vocal minority in either social-economy a vanguard able to sway votes from both extremes when it is time to raise flags, the Cypriot flag may fly higher. without some reform on his Agenda (he is a lame duck), new thinking on the part of the 'old-guard' if you will, a willingness to change within ourselves against our fears, the clear admission that the crisis each faces cannot be resolved by handouts (anymore), that they are Cypriots and that Cyprus comes first, any meal they share will be fruitless, and the invitation another hollow sham. I think the President has already demonstrated that he represents Cyprus when speaking to Greeks, as Cypriots. it is Eroglu's chance to do the same.

...it's true what Lordo says, vp says it too, time is not on the side of Cypriots, it is the "Greeks" and the "Turks" in our midst who win.

...i'd like to recall that on Tuesday, 10 years ago to that day, the gates were opened for the first time since 1974.

...i'd like to recall the heroes, Cypriots who died so that those gates should not be closed.

Below are extracts from some of the speeches of the late Kavazoglou:
“They have managed to drive the young people of Cyprus, Greeks and Turks on the mountains to fight and kill each other. Only yesterday they were working together in the workshops, offices, and in the mines, they were ploughing the same earth to provide bread for their families”.
“They have created the myth and the lie that is impossible for the two communities to co-exist in peace. They drove 20 000 Turks out of their homes and put them in places which are not different from concentration camps. Thus establishing the base for a future partition” – “a handful of fascists by using guns and fascists methods snatched the leadership of the Turkish community. They are the ones that cause the suffering of the Turkish Cypriots”.

On 11 April 1965, Dervis Kavazoglou a Turkish Cypriot and Costas Mishaoulis a Greek Cypriot were murdered together in their car by Turkish Cypriot members of the terrorist organization (TMT).

rw quoting a speech of kavazoglu is no evidence. can we have a single evidence that tmt forced anybody off their land. what he is saying is crap and you know it. he did not set foot in a single tc village especially an enclave. notice he was not killed in an enclave but outside. my cousin and my neighbour weren not killed by tmt but eoka. their bones have been found in pahphos in a well. you will find that where ever tcs evacuated the reason was either there was an innicent tc killed by eoka or the animals were taken from the owners or the tcs did not feel safe to till their land.

so please stop propogationg old eoka crap about tmt forcing people into enclaves unless you have a single evidnece of a tc being forced.


...it proves that "Turks" were killing Turks.

...if what he was saying was untrue, "crap" as you say, why was it important for him to be murdered?

...and if the goal was to propogate hatred, to divide Cypriots by their ethnic origins, enclaves, who wanted them and who created them, is mute.

dude we've all suffered, i am sorry for your family's losses, like mine, this is not relevant whether a "Turk" or a "Greek" did these dirty deeds; i am unwilling to stereotype all Greeks as "Greeks" and all Turks are "Turks", it is the very Ignorance that leaves us at this impasse, and it is in the end, the Problem.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Maximus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:58 pm

Viewpoint,

In my honest opinion,

Your people's interests would have been better served if they were resettled, back in the day, in modern day Turkey, like the Turkish Egyptians, the Turkish Israeli's, the Turkish Libyans, the Turkish Iraqi's, the Turkish Jordanians, etc. Your people's quality of life and economic prosperity would be far superior compared to the sorry situation they have found themselves in today. Instead, still bickering, still trying to expropriate property from refugees, still clinging onto myths and racketeering entitlements 53 years down the line. I still think that the best thing for the majority of your people is to be resettled in Turkey today, because of the psychological border that exists.

Britain wanted Cyprus as a base, they settled for bases in Cyprus but not before twisting the knife in and unfortunately, your people were the tools they used to do the stabbing and twisting.

After it has all been said and done, America and Britain have normalized their relations with Cyprus and are now considered as allies. Its Turkey's turn and it is too long overdue.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:31 pm

Maximus wrote:Viewpoint,

In my honest opinion,

Your people's interests would have been better served if they were resettled, back in the day, in modern day Turkey, like the Turkish Egyptians, the Turkish Israeli's, the Turkish Libyans, the Turkish Iraqi's, the Turkish Jordanians, etc. Your people's quality of life and economic prosperity would be far superior compared to the sorry situation they have found themselves in today. Instead, still bickering, still trying to expropriate property from refugees, still clinging onto myths and racketeering entitlements 53 years down the line. I still think that the best thing for the majority of your people is to be resettled in Turkey today, because of the psychological border that exists.

Britain wanted Cyprus as a base, they settled for bases in Cyprus but not before twisting the knife in and unfortunately, your people were the tools they used to do the stabbing and twisting.

After it has all been said and done, America and Britain have normalized their relations with Cyprus and are now considered as allies. Its Turkey's turn and it is too long overdue.


This post only proves one thing and that is how insincere you really are and that you do not see us TCs as indigenous to Cyprus...you have to accept your share of the blame which I do not see in any of your posts. Please tell us all how the GCs contributed to the division of today?
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Maximus » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:38 pm

VP,

As an ethnic community, I do not see the TC's as indigenous to Cyprus and this is not, nor is it intended to be an insult.

viewpoint wrote:Please tell us all how the GCs contributed to the division of today?


You are welcome to inform me for the purpose of discussion.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:38 pm

Maximus wrote:VP,

As an ethnic community, I do not see the TC's as indigenous to Cyprus and this is not, nor is it intended to be an insult.

viewpoint wrote:Please tell us all how the GCs contributed to the division of today?


You are welcome to inform me for the purpose of discussion.


This clearly reveals the problem you do not see us TCs as your equals thats why however much we may discuss matters we will not agree as i see you as an equal indigenous to Cyprus with just as much right to this island as myself but this is not a mutual mindset and only tells us how ignorant you are. How do you expect to share a country with people you do not see as your equals?
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP,

As an ethnic community, I do not see the TC's as indigenous to Cyprus and this is not, nor is it intended to be an insult.

viewpoint wrote:Please tell us all how the GCs contributed to the division of today?


You are welcome to inform me for the purpose of discussion.


This clearly reveals the problem you do not see us TCs as your equals thats why however much we may discuss matters we will not agree as i see you as an equal indigenous to Cyprus with just as much right to this island as myself but this is not a mutual mindset and only tells us how ignorant you are. How do you expect to share a country with people you do not see as your equals?


clearly you have a hard time reconciling your Humanity to that of your "Turkishness". we are equals.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP,

As an ethnic community, I do not see the TC's as indigenous to Cyprus and this is not, nor is it intended to be an insult.

viewpoint wrote:Please tell us all how the GCs contributed to the division of today?


You are welcome to inform me for the purpose of discussion.


This clearly reveals the problem you do not see us TCs as your equals thats why however much we may discuss matters we will not agree as i see you as an equal indigenous to Cyprus with just as much right to this island as myself but this is not a mutual mindset and only tells us how ignorant you are. How do you expect to share a country with people you do not see as your equals?


clearly you have a hard time reconciling your Humanity to that of your "Turkishness". we are equals.


Its maxi that does not accept us as equals, why arent you questioning him?
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:36 am

...so what happened at the meeting, did they have a nice stroll after dinner, and a coffee; what did they talk about?
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