Lordo wrote:repulsewarrior wrote:...Eroglu hasn't the chance to win in the next election without the support of Mr. Anastasiades; he can join in the reflection on these auspicious days to say, how glad he is to be a Cypriot; this dinner should be most important to him. Talat can say that, and unlike Denktash he looks good in front of a camera, he is a Socialist, and it is Labour that will move Cyprus, being the vocal minority in either social-economy a vanguard able to sway votes from both extremes when it is time to raise flags, the Cypriot flag may fly higher. without some reform on his Agenda (he is a lame duck), new thinking on the part of the 'old-guard' if you will, a willingness to change within ourselves against our fears, the clear admission that the crisis each faces cannot be resolved by handouts (anymore), that they are Cypriots and that Cyprus comes first, any meal they share will be fruitless, and the invitation another hollow sham. I think the President has already demonstrated that he represents Cyprus when speaking to Greeks, as Cypriots. it is Eroglu's chance to do the same.
...it's true what Lordo says, vp says it too, time is not on the side of Cypriots, it is the "Greeks" and the "Turks" in our midst who win.
...i'd like to recall that on Tuesday, 10 years ago to that day, the gates were opened for the first time since 1974.
...i'd like to recall the heroes, Cypriots who died so that those gates should not be closed.
Below are extracts from some of the speeches of the late Kavazoglou:
“They have managed to drive the young people of Cyprus, Greeks and Turks on the mountains to fight and kill each other. Only yesterday they were working together in the workshops, offices, and in the mines, they were ploughing the same earth to provide bread for their families”.
“They have created the myth and the lie that is impossible for the two communities to co-exist in peace. They drove 20 000 Turks out of their homes and put them in places which are not different from concentration camps. Thus establishing the base for a future partition” – “a handful of fascists by using guns and fascists methods snatched the leadership of the Turkish community. They are the ones that cause the suffering of the Turkish Cypriots”.
On 11 April 1965, Dervis Kavazoglou a Turkish Cypriot and Costas Mishaoulis a Greek Cypriot were murdered together in their car by Turkish Cypriot members of the terrorist organization (TMT).
rw quoting a speech of kavazoglu is no evidence. can we have a single evidence that tmt forced anybody off their land. what he is saying is crap and you know it. he did not set foot in a single tc village especially an enclave. notice he was not killed in an enclave but outside. my cousin and my neighbour weren not killed by tmt but eoka. their bones have been found in pahphos in a well. you will find that where ever tcs evacuated the reason was either there was an innicent tc killed by eoka or the animals were taken from the owners or the tcs did not feel safe to till their land.
so please stop propogationg old eoka crap about tmt forcing people into enclaves unless you have a single evidnece of a tc being forced.
...it proves that "Turks" were killing Turks.
...if what he was saying was untrue, "crap" as you say, why was it important for him to be murdered?
...and if the goal was to propogate hatred, to divide Cypriots by their ethnic origins, enclaves, who wanted them and who created them, is mute.
dude we've all suffered, i am sorry for your family's losses, like mine, this is not relevant whether a "Turk" or a "Greek" did these dirty deeds; i am unwilling to stereotype all Greeks as "Greeks" and all Turks are "Turks", it is the very Ignorance that leaves us at this impasse, and it is in the end, the Problem.