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[Maximus]

Don't you care that your people are violating the rights of a whole nation VP?

[Lordo]

Don't you care that your people are violating the rights of a whole nation VP?

it as ok while you and that xerodjehalo violated tc rights in between 63 and 74. when you pushed them into 2.5% of cyprus in enclaves. your kind was not worried about the tc rights. you are not concerned about violating the human rights of tc since 74 where you have hijacked the government of roc and you are worried anout 10% extra the ta has taken for the sole purpose of giving back in the agreement and you aint got enough common sense to have an agreement to get it back. never mind few more years and you will be fine with a million turks at your doorstep.

[Maximus]

Lordo,,

it is common knowledge, divide and conquer, TMT's bombing mosques, blaming the Greeks, other false flags, more TMT's, blame it on the Archbishop, more TMT's, Taksim.

Your people where used as pawns by some incredulous politicians on all sides to stick it to the Greek Cypriots. Your partners have now become your main distraction but the rest of your people have been withering away. Enter more illegal Turkish settlers. Only Turkey recognizes you now, or does she? Wake up.

[repulsewarrior]

...Eroglu hasn't the chance to win in the next election without the support of Mr. Anastasiades; he can join in the reflection on these auspicious days to say, how glad he is to be a Cypriot; this dinner should be most important to him. Talat can say that, and unlike Denktash he looks good in front of a camera, he is a Socialist, and it is Labour that will move Cyprus, being the vocal minority in either social-economy a vanguard able to sway votes from both extremes when it is time to raise flags, the Cypriot flag may fly higher. without some reform on his Agenda (he is a lame duck), new thinking on the part of the 'old-guard' if you will, a willingness to change within ourselves against our fears, the clear admission that the crisis each faces cannot be resolved by handouts (anymore), that they are Cypriots and that Cyprus comes first, any meal they share will be fruitless, and the invitation another hollow sham. I think the President has already demonstrated that he represents Cyprus when speaking to Greeks, as Cypriots. it is Eroglu's chance to do the same.

...it's true what Lordo says, vp says it too, time is not on the side of Cypriots, it is the "Greeks" and the "Turks" in our midst who win.

...i'd like to recall that on Tuesday, 10 years ago to that day, the gates were opened for the first time since 1974.

...i'd like to recall the heroes, Cypriots who died so that those gates should not be closed.

Below are extracts from some of the speeches of the late Kavazoglou:
“They have managed to drive the young people of Cyprus, Greeks and Turks on the mountains to fight and kill each other. Only yesterday they were working together in the workshops, offices, and in the mines, they were ploughing the same earth to provide bread for their families”.
“They have created the myth and the lie that is impossible for the two communities to co-exist in peace. They drove 20 000 Turks out of their homes and put them in places which are not different from concentration camps. Thus establishing the base for a future partition” – “a handful of fascists by using guns and fascists methods snatched the leadership of the Turkish community. They are the ones that cause the suffering of the Turkish Cypriots”.

On 11 April 1965, Dervis Kavazoglou a Turkish Cypriot and Costas Mishaoulis a Greek Cypriot were murdered together in their car by Turkish Cypriot members of the terrorist organization (TMT).

[Viewpoint]

Lordo,,

it is common knowledge, divide and conquer, TMT's bombing mosques, blaming the Greeks, other false flags, more TMT's, blame it on the Archbishop, more TMT's, Taksim.

Your people where used as pawns by some incredulous politicians on all sides to stick it to the Greek Cypriots. Your partners have now become your main distraction but the rest of your people have been withering away. Enter more illegal Turkish settlers. Only Turkey recognizes you now, or does she? Wake up.

And what exactly was the GCs role in the division of Cyprus, dont forget that your answer will reveal a great deal about your mindset and you but to a great extent I can guess what you will say as you are very predictable...go ahead try giving us some truths without being biased or one sided.

[Maximus]

Lordo,,

it is common knowledge, divide and conquer, TMT's bombing mosques, blaming the Greeks, other false flags, more TMT's, blame it on the Archbishop, more TMT's, Taksim.

Your people where used as pawns by some incredulous politicians on all sides to stick it to the Greek Cypriots. Your partners have now become your main distraction but the rest of your people have been withering away. Enter more illegal Turkish settlers. Only Turkey recognizes you now, or does she? Wake up.

And what exactly was the GCs role in the division of Cyprus, dont forget that your answer will reveal a great deal about your mindset and you but to a great extent I can guess what you will say as you are very predictable...go ahead try giving us some truths without being biased or one sided.

Viewpoint,

I suppose that you want me to get straight to EOKA (The National Organisation of Cypriot Struggle) and tell you how they were murdering Turkish Cypriots.

In his book, Getting it wrong; Fragments from a Cyprus diary 1964, former royal navy intelligence analyst, Martin Packard took part in tripartite patrols. He opens his account with a comment made by George Ball. "You've got it all wrong son. hasn't anyone told you that our objective here is partition, not reintegration?". Unequivocally underlining the existence of an American plan to partition the island.

Their role was to be suppressed hard and directed to take up armed struggle against the TC's, the TMT and to give Turkey a pretext to 'intervene' and 'save them'. The objective was partition between America, Britain and Turkey. The GC's did not have a chance.

[Lordo]

...Eroglu hasn't the chance to win in the next election without the support of Mr. Anastasiades; he can join in the reflection on these auspicious days to say, how glad he is to be a Cypriot; this dinner should be most important to him. Talat can say that, and unlike Denktash he looks good in front of a camera, he is a Socialist, and it is Labour that will move Cyprus, being the vocal minority in either social-economy a vanguard able to sway votes from both extremes when it is time to raise flags, the Cypriot flag may fly higher. without some reform on his Agenda (he is a lame duck), new thinking on the part of the 'old-guard' if you will, a willingness to change within ourselves against our fears, the clear admission that the crisis each faces cannot be resolved by handouts (anymore), that they are Cypriots and that Cyprus comes first, any meal they share will be fruitless, and the invitation another hollow sham. I think the President has already demonstrated that he represents Cyprus when speaking to Greeks, as Cypriots. it is Eroglu's chance to do the same.

...it's true what Lordo says, vp says it too, time is not on the side of Cypriots, it is the "Greeks" and the "Turks" in our midst who win.

...i'd like to recall that on Tuesday, 10 years ago to that day, the gates were opened for the first time since 1974.

...i'd like to recall the heroes, Cypriots who died so that those gates should not be closed.

Below are extracts from some of the speeches of the late Kavazoglou:
“They have managed to drive the young people of Cyprus, Greeks and Turks on the mountains to fight and kill each other. Only yesterday they were working together in the workshops, offices, and in the mines, they were ploughing the same earth to provide bread for their families”.
“They have created the myth and the lie that is impossible for the two communities to co-exist in peace. They drove 20 000 Turks out of their homes and put them in places which are not different from concentration camps. Thus establishing the base for a future partition” – “a handful of fascists by using guns and fascists methods snatched the leadership of the Turkish community. They are the ones that cause the suffering of the Turkish Cypriots”.

On 11 April 1965, Dervis Kavazoglou a Turkish Cypriot and Costas Mishaoulis a Greek Cypriot were murdered together in their car by Turkish Cypriot members of the terrorist organization (TMT).

rw quoting a speech of kavazoglu is no evidence. can we have a single evidence that tmt forced anybody off their land. what he is saying is crap and you know it. he did not set foot in a single tc village especially an enclave. notice he was not killed in an enclave but outside. my cousin and my neighbour weren not killed by tmt but eoka. their bones have been found in pahphos in a well. you will find that where ever tcs evacuated the reason was either there was an innicent tc killed by eoka or the animals were taken from the owners or the tcs did not feel safe to till their land.

so please stop propogationg old eoka crap about tmt forcing people into enclaves unless you have a single evidnece of a tc being forced.

[Viewpoint]

Lordo,,

it is common knowledge, divide and conquer, TMT's bombing mosques, blaming the Greeks, other false flags, more TMT's, blame it on the Archbishop, more TMT's, Taksim.

Your people where used as pawns by some incredulous politicians on all sides to stick it to the Greek Cypriots. Your partners have now become your main distraction but the rest of your people have been withering away. Enter more illegal Turkish settlers. Only Turkey recognizes you now, or does she? Wake up.

And what exactly was the GCs role in the division of Cyprus, dont forget that your answer will reveal a great deal about your mindset and you but to a great extent I can guess what you will say as you are very predictable...go ahead try giving us some truths without being biased or one sided.

Viewpoint,

I suppose that you want me to get straight to EOKA (The National Organisation of Cypriot Struggle) and tell you how they were murdering Turkish Cypriots.

In his book, Getting it wrong; Fragments from a Cyprus diary 1964, former royal navy intelligence analyst, Martin Packard took part in tripartite patrols. He opens his account with a comment made by George Ball. "You've got it all wrong son. hasn't anyone told you that our objective here is partition, not reintegration?". Unequivocally underlining the existence of an American plan to partition the island.

Their role was to be suppressed hard and directed to take up armed struggle against the TC's, the TMT and to give Turkey a pretext to 'intervene' and 'save them'. The objective was partition between America, Britain and Turkey. The GC's did not have a chance.

So are you saying that the GCs had nothing to do with end result of today...please maxi you really dont expect us to believe. Give us more truth than what you have been taught.

[Maximus]

You are trying too hard to climb out of a tub full of sh1t, smelling like roses VP.

[Viewpoint]

You are trying too hard to climb out of a tub full of sh1t, smelling like roses VP.

Your avoiding your own shit which we can all smell, please try being truthful for a change.