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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Maximus » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:18 pm

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Lordo wrote:either he negotiates or you kiss goodbye to 37.5% of cyprus and 30% gas and oil and of course not forgetting 50% for terkey.

now go play with your marbles if you can find them.


why, to this day, are you trying to extort from Greek Cypriots?

So you steal the north from them if he doesn't negotiate and they will kiss it goodbye. So then you say, on their side of the fence, some of that is yours and half of it belongs to Turkey. (what i have stolen becomes mine and what is left we share)

Do you think that you come across as a person with a normal thought process and behaviors?


You cannot steal what is already yours, I know this is a very advanced methodology for you to comprehend but please try. Please dont mix personal property ownership with sovereignty ownership.


advanced? like astro-physics?
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Kikapu » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:28 pm

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Maximus wrote:You should read todays article by Yusuf Kanli over at the daily hurry-it garbage.



The man is promoting everything but equality and democracy and he dressing up a Turkish apartheid and oligarchy system where a minority has super inflated economic, political and property rights with 'partnership' as a smokescreen. This is the cause the problem.

It's 2013 not 1453 - what a fascist racist backwards uneducated hypocritical bombastic illegitimate credibility deficient ottoman scumbag.

The answer is that I want nothing to do with you and Turkey, I don't even want to see your face. Is that my fault?


You really need to get your head around the fact that we are 2 equal partners...once you understand that the rest will fall in place.


Where does it say that in the BBF agreements?

It only states "political equality of the two states", nothing more nothing less. Yusuf Kanli also changes the facts to fiction by stating "political equality of the two peoples".

Once you understand facts from fiction, then things will fall in place. :roll:


Meaning two equal partner states.


Err, no it doesn't. It means two politically equal states and nothing more.

Equal partnership states (if it exists anywhere at all that is) it would be entirely something else.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Kikapu » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:39 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Do we want to unite with an economically redundant south? what is the amount they are begging for Euro10.7 billion??? why should we take on their loan? their track record of running the south is terrible and the same mentality will prevail in a united Cyprus?? the whole game has changed and needs to be rethought so we do not put ourselves at risk.


Are you now going to thank the GCs for voting down the AP 2004 to have spared you the economic problems facing the south. :wink:

After all, they did you a favour right by saying OXI to the AP? :wink:

So lets hear you say, thank you, thank you GCs for saying OXI to that fcuking AP in 2004! :lol:

Look on the bright side, now the TCs/Turks can finance the whole next unification plan and not the GCs. :lol:

I'm sure the GCs will be happy to spend "your" future Gas & Oil monies to pay back debts on your behalf. :wink:

So, lets hear those "thank yous" to the Gcs for saying OXI to the AP of 2004. :D


But you conviently forget that had they of said YES to the AP they would not have been in the mess they are today as we would have objected to all their eggs being placed into one very damaged basket.


That is all conjecture without any merits, created by Davutoglu and Erdogan which is not based on facts but rather they wanting to be seen as "wise men", except they did not look into the future back in 2004 and make predictions but rather still upset about the GCs saying OXI to handing Cyprus over to Turkey on a platter...

So, when are you going to thank the GCs for saving you economically by them voting OXI on the AP? :wink:
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Maximus » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:49 pm

First of all Mr Kanli refers to the "political equality of the two peoples".

Then VP tells us to get our heads around the fact that we are equal partners, supporting Mr Kanli's claims of political equality of the two peoples or an oligarchy system that resembles an apartheid.

Then VP tells us, this actually means two equal partner states where still, a minority in one is equal partners with a majority living in the other. supporting the claims before.

Then VP tells us that stealing 37.5% of Cyprus as well as a net positive carry of Greek Cypriot property is not in fact stealing, but an advanced methodology whereby 50% of Cyprus sovereignty also belongs to Turkey and they also take 'shares' in the gas revenues without chipping in.

I mean, what the f*ck is this advanced sh*t that is being spouted here?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:26 am

Maximus wrote:
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Lordo wrote:either he negotiates or you kiss goodbye to 37.5% of cyprus and 30% gas and oil and of course not forgetting 50% for terkey.

now go play with your marbles if you can find them.


why, to this day, are you trying to extort from Greek Cypriots?

So you steal the north from them if he doesn't negotiate and they will kiss it goodbye. So then you say, on their side of the fence, some of that is yours and half of it belongs to Turkey. (what i have stolen becomes mine and what is left we share)

Do you think that you come across as a person with a normal thought process and behaviors?


You cannot steal what is already yours, I know this is a very advanced methodology for you to comprehend but please try. Please dont mix personal property ownership with sovereignty ownership.


advanced? like astro-physics?


Thought so, you cannot teach those who do not want to learn.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:29 am

Kikapu wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Do we want to unite with an economically redundant south? what is the amount they are begging for Euro10.7 billion??? why should we take on their loan? their track record of running the south is terrible and the same mentality will prevail in a united Cyprus?? the whole game has changed and needs to be rethought so we do not put ourselves at risk.


Are you now going to thank the GCs for voting down the AP 2004 to have spared you the economic problems facing the south. :wink:

After all, they did you a favour right by saying OXI to the AP? :wink:

So lets hear you say, thank you, thank you GCs for saying OXI to that fcuking AP in 2004! :lol:

Look on the bright side, now the TCs/Turks can finance the whole next unification plan and not the GCs. :lol:

I'm sure the GCs will be happy to spend "your" future Gas & Oil monies to pay back debts on your behalf. :wink:

So, lets hear those "thank yous" to the Gcs for saying OXI to the AP of 2004. :D


But you conviently forget that had they of said YES to the AP they would not have been in the mess they are today as we would have objected to all their eggs being placed into one very damaged basket.


That is all conjecture without any merits, created by Davutoglu and Erdogan which is not based on facts but rather they wanting to be seen as "wise men", except they did not look into the future back in 2004 and make predictions but rather still upset about the GCs saying OXI to handing Cyprus over to Turkey on a platter...

So, when are you going to thank the GCs for saving you economically by them voting OXI on the AP? :wink:


So now we will never know but the odds were definitely in favor of better situation than they are in right now.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:33 am

Maximus wrote:First of all Mr Kanli refers to the "political equality of the two peoples".

Then VP tells us to get our heads around the fact that we are equal partners, supporting Mr Kanli's claims of political equality of the two peoples or an oligarchy system that resembles an apartheid.

Then VP tells us, this actually means two equal partner states where still, a minority in one is equal partners with a majority living in the other. supporting the claims before.

Then VP tells us that stealing 37.5% of Cyprus as well as a net positive carry of Greek Cypriot property is not in fact stealing, but an advanced methodology whereby 50% of Cyprus sovereignty also belongs to Turkey and they also take 'shares' in the gas revenues without chipping in.

I mean, what the f*ck is this advanced sh*t that is being spouted here?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Its all way beyond your mental capacity.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Maximus » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:36 pm

Its simple economics VP,

your saying that a partnership with the Turkish Cypriots involves a 30% yearly tax levy ( their share ) on Greek Cypriots and all other residence living in the RoC. If one living in the RoC wants to maintain his standard of living when 'unification' happens, he/she has to produce 30% more to pay your people. It looks and sounds like your people want to extort through gunboat diplomacy to me. This may otherwise be known as racketeering. Its not complicated, its rogue.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:46 pm

Maximus wrote:Its simple economics VP,

your saying that a partnership with the Turkish Cypriots involves a 30% yearly tax levy ( their share ) on Greek Cypriots and all other residence living in the RoC. If one living in the RoC wants to maintain his standard of living when 'unification' happens, he/she has to produce 30% more to pay your people. It looks and sounds like your people want to extort through gunboat diplomacy to me. This may otherwise be known as racketeering. Its not complicated, its rogue.


How old are you? you sound very young, naive and obviously you havent got a clue. You cant pay yourselves 30% let alone our share...why on earth would we expect this? You are bankrupt for the next minimum 5 years when or if the gas which by then is expected to drop in price comes through.
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Re: meeting on the 22 may

Postby Maximus » Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:05 pm

are your people not entitled to a 30% share in the country's GDP?

Where does your share come from then and how is it paid to your people?
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