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[Tim Drayton]

What is it with Brits and taking the damp with them wherever they go? You are not an expert on Cyprus just by living in a Brit enclave and just because you've retired there for a few years. My birthplace and home is in Cyprus and you'll never makeup to my experiences just with your few retirement years in the sun.

As I've said a million times, Cypriot homes do not need air conditioning and they certainly would never suffer from damp if they did not have air conditioning and people would have fewer headaches and less sinus troubles if they stopped using air conditioners! None of my homes have or have ever had air-conditioning - we just open windows! And the only time we ever had a spot of damp was from an earthquake crack which we didn't repair in time.

Some of us have real homes - not just retirement homes! They don't have to look big to make a statement and be built on the cheap just to manage a "mortgage" and then lead us to reselling problems.

Open some windows! Get used to the outdoors! Bugs and all.

The most bueatiful houses and architecture in Cyprus INMHO are the old stone cottages in the villages. They stood the test of time, have thick stone walls which keep the heat out in summer and the warmth in winter.

But I wouldn't go as far to say that aircon or heating is not required because that is untrue. My family's paternal dwelling in the village is my favorite for sentimental reasons and it is a great house with great history but it was renovated with the mod cons including heating and aircon. There is only so much an open window can do especially in the stifling heat of summer.

Modern dwellings in Cyprus have a greater need for heating and cooling because they don't make houses like they use to, and if you are a Brit the requirement for cooling in summer is understandable as it will take time for them to adjust.

I know about heat. Seen days of 52 degrees Celsius in the desert and I know what that feels like but I can't imagine not having cooling installed for when it is needed and I don't know why you would want to put up with bugs and all. Sounds awful!

Perhaps it has something to with them being 'down under'.

I was commenting to some people in a coffee shop just the other day that I have lived in six foreign countries in my life, and by far the best people I have ever encountered are the Cypriots.I meant it.

My admiration was only enhanced when I saw the behaviour of the people entering the banks when they opened after having been closed for two weeks. No mad rush,no pushing and shoving, just orderly, polite queues. Under the circumstances, this was incredible, and surely shows that, whatever else happens, Cyprus will remain a civilised place.

[cyprusgrump]

What is it with Brits and taking the damp with them wherever they go? You are not an expert on Cyprus just by living in a Brit enclave and just because you've retired there for a few years. My birthplace and home is in Cyprus and you'll never makeup to my experiences just with your few retirement years in the sun.

As I've said a million times, Cypriot homes do not need air conditioning and they certainly would never suffer from damp if they did not have air conditioning and people would have fewer headaches and less sinus troubles if they stopped using air conditioners! None of my homes have or have ever had air-conditioning - we just open windows! And the only time we ever had a spot of damp was from an earthquake crack which we didn't repair in time.

Some of us have real homes - not just retirement homes! They don't have to look big to make a statement and be built on the cheap just to manage a "mortgage" and then lead us to reselling problems.

Open some windows! Get used to the outdoors! Bugs and all.

No, I'm not an expert on Cyprus...

But I clearly have more expertise than somebody who believes that condensation causes the rising damp that blights so many Cypriot buildings...

Oh, and where do you think the water that trickles out of air conditioning units comes from...?

You should take off your rose tinted glasses once in a while - you wouldn't come across as such a buffoon every time you post something...

[GreekIslandGirl]

If you have rising damp problems, then sort them. This is what maintenance and TLC on your home are all about.

But poor indoor air quality, dampness and mold are encouraged by the use of air conditioners instead of simply opening some windows!

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This over-reliance on air conditioners is another detrimental habit.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Friends have confirmed meeting with bank manager on Friday - means there are NO problems with paying for property from bank deposits! Scaremongering myth busted!

Also - two more offers on properties have been turned down. Methinks friends are being over-optimistic at getting a "bargain" during Cyprus' much publicized "Crisis" - they have just e-mailed to say remarkably many families are out enjoying themselves eating and drinking as though there is not a worry in the world. So hopefully they will get the hint and stop putting in offers and actually deal the asking price so that they can secure a property and move on!

(Can't say that to them though as they will accuse me of pro-Cyprus bias. )

That's interesting because in Oz, Cypriots are generally regarded as being very tight. They never deal the asking price, even if the asking price was a bargain already.

Real scamsters and low class scummy people. I am not kidding.

The young australianised ones are ok generally, and there are a few really good ones, but most are just really low class, disrespectful, judgmental, gossips, who are very political and very negative it makes you feel unhappy just being around them which you would try to avoid as much as possible.

To be honest, Greeks are a little better I have noticed. But not that much. Definitely, Cypriots are a bit weird!

Very dangerous people they are too.

You seem to have gone from a complaint about Cypriots haggling for a good price to labeling them as dangerous.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

[Paphitis]

What is it with Brits and taking the damp with them wherever they go? You are not an expert on Cyprus just by living in a Brit enclave and just because you've retired there for a few years. My birthplace and home is in Cyprus and you'll never makeup to my experiences just with your few retirement years in the sun.

As I've said a million times, Cypriot homes do not need air conditioning and they certainly would never suffer from damp if they did not have air conditioning and people would have fewer headaches and less sinus troubles if they stopped using air conditioners! None of my homes have or have ever had air-conditioning - we just open windows! And the only time we ever had a spot of damp was from an earthquake crack which we didn't repair in time.

Some of us have real homes - not just retirement homes! They don't have to look big to make a statement and be built on the cheap just to manage a "mortgage" and then lead us to reselling problems.

Open some windows! Get used to the outdoors! Bugs and all.

The most bueatiful houses and architecture in Cyprus INMHO are the old stone cottages in the villages. They stood the test of time, have thick stone walls which keep the heat out in summer and the warmth in winter.

But I wouldn't go as far to say that aircon or heating is not required because that is untrue. My family's paternal dwelling in the village is my favorite for sentimental reasons and it is a great house with great history but it was renovated with the mod cons including heating and aircon. There is only so much an open window can do especially in the stifling heat of summer.

Modern dwellings in Cyprus have a greater need for heating and cooling because they don't make houses like they use to, and if you are a Brit the requirement for cooling in summer is understandable as it will take time for them to adjust.

I know about heat. Seen days of 52 degrees Celsius in the desert and I know what that feels like but I can't imagine not having cooling installed for when it is needed and I don't know why you would want to put up with bugs and all. Sounds awful!

Perhaps it has something to with them being 'down under'.

I was commenting to some people in a coffee shop just the other day that I have lived in six foreign countries in my life, and by far the best people I have ever encountered are the Cypriots.I meant it.

My admiration was only enhanced when I saw the behaviour of the people entering the banks when they opened after having been closed for two weeks. No mad rush,no pushing and shoving, just orderly, polite queues. Under the circumstances, this was incredible, and surely shows that, whatever else happens, Cyprus will remain a civilised place.

Yes it has to do with being down under. Australia is a very wealthy country and the standard of living combined with lifestyle is unequalled by any country I have been to although a couple of countries come close I must say.

You look at the houses, the cars, the food, the cities and public space, it will blow your mind.

That comes at a price and I notice that Cypriots and Greeks here are very materialistic and competitive. They try to undermine and hurt each other and there is no unity and everyone keeps to themselves.

The Cypriots in Cyprus are better INMHO. In fact you can strike similarities between Cypriots in Cyprus and Australians. Very friendly, warm, caring and live life to the fullest and live for today not tomorrow kind of mentality thing hapenning.

But one thing that is universal. Everyone looks for a bargain and will not deal an asking price whether they are British, Cypriot or Australian. The Cypriots in Australia go too far sometimes. Very negative and unhappy lot they are too on the most part.

[Paphitis]

Friends have confirmed meeting with bank manager on Friday - means there are NO problems with paying for property from bank deposits! Scaremongering myth busted!

Also - two more offers on properties have been turned down. Methinks friends are being over-optimistic at getting a "bargain" during Cyprus' much publicized "Crisis" - they have just e-mailed to say remarkably many families are out enjoying themselves eating and drinking as though there is not a worry in the world. So hopefully they will get the hint and stop putting in offers and actually deal the asking price so that they can secure a property and move on!

(Can't say that to them though as they will accuse me of pro-Cyprus bias. )

That's interesting because in Oz, Cypriots are generally regarded as being very tight. They never deal the asking price, even if the asking price was a bargain already.

Real scamsters and low class scummy people. I am not kidding.

The young australianised ones are ok generally, and there are a few really good ones, but most are just really low class, disrespectful, judgmental, gossips, who are very political and very negative it makes you feel unhappy just being around them which you would try to avoid as much as possible.

To be honest, Greeks are a little better I have noticed. But not that much. Definitely, Cypriots are a bit weird!

Very dangerous people they are too.

You seem to have gone from a complaint about Cypriots haggling for a good price to labeling them as dangerous.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Yes real dangerous in Oz as I said. Not all!

There are some really nice people as well. It is very hard finding them however because all the good ones keep to themselves or are in hiding as they simply just do not want to mix with other Cypriots or Greeks apart from close family.

There are many reasons for that but I find it is a protective measure.

[Get Real!]

Australia is a very wealthy country and the standard of living combined with lifestyle is unequalled by any country I have been to although a couple of countries come close I must say.

You’re painting too rosy a picture of Australia Paphitis. Australia may be wealthy but that doesn’t mean that her citizens are all wealthy.

Although you make good money working there your bills are astronomical so you’re left with very little again!

Overall, Australia is a pretty place inhabited by a boring crowd that has a weird accent and a confused sense of identity.

[Paphitis]

Australia is a very wealthy country and the standard of living combined with lifestyle is unequalled by any country I have been to although a couple of countries come close I must say.

You’re painting too rosy a picture of Australia Paphitis. Australia may be wealthy but that doesn’t mean that her citizens are all wealthy.

Although you make good money working there your bills are astronomical so you’re left with very little again!

Overall, Australia is a pretty place inhabited by a boring crowd that has a weird accent and a confused sense of identity.

Obviously not everyone is wealthy but most people whether rich, middle or poor are happy because there is a quality of life that most people can have with regards to lifestyle which I have not found anywhere else.

Yes at the moment Australua is a very expensive country. I heard it is now ranked 4th in the world. It is getting dearer than Western Europe unfortunately.

My point is Get Real, Cypriots in Oz, and I differentiate between them and you guys in Cyprus came to Australia and have become like children in a Candy store. They always fight and try to take the candy from their compatriots hands. The Aussies on the other hand are very laid back, nicer, warmer, politer, much like Cypriots in Cyprus.

I have no clue why they are like that. I am not a social engineer. I just notice the difference but am not sure why this has occurred.

[Tim Drayton]

Australia is a very wealthy country and the standard of living combined with lifestyle is unequalled by any country I have been to although a couple of countries come close I must say.

You’re painting too rosy a picture of Australia Paphitis. Australia may be wealthy but that doesn’t mean that her citizens are all wealthy.

Although you make good money working there your bills are astronomical so you’re left with very little again!

Overall, Australia is a pretty place inhabited by a boring crowd that has a weird accent and a confused sense of identity.

Obviously not everyone is wealthy but most people whether rich, middle or poor are happy because there is a quality of life that most people can have with regards to lifestyle which I have not found anywhere else.

Yes at the moment Australua is a very expensive country. I heard it is now ranked 4th in the world. It is getting dearer than Western Europe unfortunately.

My point is Get Real, Cypriots in Oz, and I differentiate between them and you guys in Cyprus came to Australia and have become like children in a Candy store. They always fight and try to take the candy from their compatriots hands. The Aussies on the other hand are very laid back, nicer, warmer, politer, much like Cypriots in Cyprus.

I have no clue why they are like that. I am not a social engineer. I just notice the difference but am not sure why this has occurred.

Polite? I don't know about that. I think of Aussies as being people who are not afraid to speak their mind, regardless of whether this will offend others or not. I don't really think of it as being a negative characteristic, but in my view (and experience) British people are more likely to say what they think people want to hear - hence their famous politeness and reserve.

[Paphitis]

Australia is a very wealthy country and the standard of living combined with lifestyle is unequalled by any country I have been to although a couple of countries come close I must say.

You’re painting too rosy a picture of Australia Paphitis. Australia may be wealthy but that doesn’t mean that her citizens are all wealthy.

Although you make good money working there your bills are astronomical so you’re left with very little again!

Overall, Australia is a pretty place inhabited by a boring crowd that has a weird accent and a confused sense of identity.

Obviously not everyone is wealthy but most people whether rich, middle or poor are happy because there is a quality of life that most people can have with regards to lifestyle which I have not found anywhere else.

Yes at the moment Australua is a very expensive country. I heard it is now ranked 4th in the world. It is getting dearer than Western Europe unfortunately.

My point is Get Real, Cypriots in Oz, and I differentiate between them and you guys in Cyprus came to Australia and have become like children in a Candy store. They always fight and try to take the candy from their compatriots hands. The Aussies on the other hand are very laid back, nicer, warmer, politer, much like Cypriots in Cyprus.

I have no clue why they are like that. I am not a social engineer. I just notice the difference but am not sure why this has occurred.

Polite? I don't know about that. I think of Aussies as being people who are not afraid to speak their mind, regardless of whether this will offend others or not. I don't really think of it as being a negative characteristic, but in my view (and experience) British people are more likely to say what they think people want to hear - hence their famous politeness and reserve.

Yes they are upfront and honest in the most part. Very much like a Cypriot, Greek or Italian. For some reason, maybe because of the way Australia was founded as a Penal Colony, they have become unlike the Brits. Chalk and Cheese if you like if you wish to look at the Brits as polite.

Yes they usually will tell you what's on their mind and they will usually do it politely. It is the way they are. They usually don't mean any offence. And at the same time they would be happy to buy you a beer. They are usually a positive, happy and very laid back people and not that big on formalities.