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[Lordo]

bollocks or no bollocks nuts or no nuts this thing is gona bite you hard on the ass. sooner or later.

[CBBB]

bollocks or no bollocks nuts or no nuts this thing is gona bite you hard on the ass. sooner or later.

Yeah, yeah, yeah!

[repulsewarrior]

Typical Cyprots Greek and Turk, we just go round in circles. The Greeks want togo back to pre 74 and are in total denial about everything. Istanbul is not Constantinople, Aegean Turkey is lost. In another 10 years there will probably be hald a million settlers in the north and as with Palestine reversal becomes impossible. Lets face it the Turks are not going to live in a greater Kyrenia enclave. Equally The Turks show little empathy for people who lost homes and no understanding that the Greeks should have the rights afforded to a majority. Where do we go, not sure but we have all been repeatedly conned by our asshole politicians and I am sorry ot say its all starting again. Do we never learn?

welcome Howcouldyou.

in answer to your question, grass root acts of love for Cyprus above and beyond "Greekness" or "Turkishness". seek out Cypriots who are not "you" and promote the dialog that "we" are united, enjoy these bonds, fly (higher) the Cypriot Flag, question any politician who see this Problem as a debate between Greeks and Turks and who are willing to take away our Humanity by dividing us as such. if there is to be a BBF, since there is a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency, ask, where are the other Cypriot Constituencies (Maronite, Armenian, Latin, and why not British), where is the Greek Constituency?

[repulsewarrior]

bollocks or no bollocks nuts or no nuts this thing is gona bite you hard on the ass. sooner or later.

Lordo, you assume the readership understands that you love Cyprus first. if it is that the "Greeks" hold the Republic hostage, fight them. but, in generalising, stereotyping, you ignore that there is a much wider body of people that are Greeks who have the same connection to the island as you do, who respect its integrity, that most wonderful Heritance of being the survivor of a History of subjugation for thousands of years, now Free. frankly i can see the usefulness of your position in giving me the opportunity to express an opposing view, but Cyprus needs you, flirting with the enemy is becoming even more dangerous, "they" (all of them) seek to deny us our voice as this island's dwellers by offering Liberty, not Freedom. be clear be more serious, platitudes toward me is not enough when you reply at this point; it's gonna bite all of us hard on the ass: if you (and "you" because there is a "them") continue with a "Turkish"/"Greek" belligerence that denies the fact that Nationalism has its place, but it is not in the affairs of the State.

...the Republic exists, (and even in its dysfunctional state far advanced) you want to divvy-up some money? ...where are the other Constituencies? demand a Greek Constituency, demand an identity, of Persons, that equals that of a Turkish Constituency, demand Cypriot Constituencies, because the island is vastly populated by Greeks, but it is not populated by just Turks otherwise. "you" want BBF as opposed to being the largest minority within one Government only, this is the compromise the vast majority are willing to try (i.e. what the Annan Planned proved, as opposed to whether it was successful or not), this is the way forward, and i am suggesting to act accordingly; the "sacrifices" you/"you" are "making" for the "motherland" only serves a deep state in Turkey.

[Lordo]

rw we had a president who said tcs will get noyhing unless there is peace. well are equal are we not. and if we are the gcs should get nothing as well if there is no peace. unfortunately our x-president has pressed the self destruct button by going for the resources without an agreement. finding ourselves in this situation needless to say leaves one conclusion. it is inevitable. countries have gone to war for a lot less. your fanatic friends here think that because they are in the eu they are safe from attack, far from it this kind of imaginary protection is no protection.

there is no demands, no special treatment. country like hours just like a lot of others cannot have one one zone one man one vote. longer this goes on further we get if we are not already there.

bollocks indeed to all the fanatics on here and everywhere.

[repulsewarrior]

rw we had a president who said tcs will get noyhing unless there is peace. well are equal are we not. and if we are the gcs should get nothing as well if there is no peace. unfortunately our x-president has pressed the self destruct button by going for the resources without an agreement. finding ourselves in this situation needless to say leaves one conclusion. it is inevitable. countries have gone to war for a lot less. your fanatic friends here think that because they are in the eu they are safe from attack, far from it this kind of imaginary protection is no protection.

there is no demands, no special treatment. country like hours just like a lot of others cannot have one one zone one man one vote. longer this goes on further we get if we are not already there.

bollocks indeed to all the fanatics on here and everywhere.

...let me try and get what you are saying, the "Greeks" have pushed a self-destruct button, because "Turkey", some deep state which is exploiting Language , and a very large Army, to resist what is acceptable to the rest of the world, exists. then you go on to say that war is inevitable, that my friends, other forum members are fanatics, and that the EU is no protection. somehow, Turkey (or should i say the "Turks") are destined to win, thus it is not possible to have Democracy and Freedom in Cyprus, give up; damned fanatics!

...it doesn't make sense, or am i getting something wrong?.

[Howcouldyou]

Typical Cyprots Greek and Turk, we just go round in circles. The Greeks want togo back to pre 74 and are in total denial about everything. Istanbul is not Constantinople, Aegean Turkey is lost. In another 10 years there will probably be hald a million settlers in the north and as with Palestine reversal becomes impossible. Lets face it the Turks are not going to live in a greater Kyrenia enclave. Equally The Turks show little empathy for people who lost homes and no understanding that the Greeks should have the rights afforded to a majority. Where do we go, not sure but we have all been repeatedly conned by our asshole politicians and I am sorry ot say its all starting again. Do we never learn?

welcome Howcouldyou.

in answer to your question, grass root acts of love for Cyprus above and beyond "Greekness" or "Turkishness". seek out Cypriots who are not "you" and promote the dialog that "we" are united, enjoy these bonds, fly (higher) the Cypriot Flag, question any politician who see this Problem as a debate between Greeks and Turks and who are willing to take away our Humanity by dividing us as such. if there is to be a BBF, since there is a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency, ask, where are the other Cypriot Constituencies (Maronite, Armenian, Latin, and why not British), where is the Greek Constituency?

RW I agree with most of what you say but the ROC has always been a Greek constituency. Prior to 74 and since independence
little on the island reflected the Turkish speakers. The civil service, all officialdom, road signage, airport, local govt, police
even TV were all Greek or in Greek. The ROC was never `All Cypriot` However, lets not focus on the past, its the future thats of more interest.. My issue is that both communities are under threat. Turkish Cypriots are already a minority in the North. At present they control by consent the civil service and police as well as positions in govt. But this could change as settlers make more demands particulalrly if there is no solution. Greek Cypriots are not so threatened yet but need to be aware. Corbett is right when he says 10000 new jobs will be created by the gas terminal but it is also reported in the same press that most if not all these jobs will go to foreigners. Weath will attract more and more people to Cyprus.The demography has already changed massively since joining the EU plus Russians. I think Greek Cyprioys will in a couple of decades become a community amongst others. As these groups naturally demand representation things will need to change. The island is small but perhaps thats what people want?

[Lordo]

certainly you got it wrong rw. critisising a government or a president is not the same as critisising the country. secondly is terkey alone responsible for this mess. if thats the case it is no wonder that we cannot have peace. first of all we must accept our responsibility for the mess we are in. perhaps then we can see the woods from the trees. ironic really because the one of the casualties of the cyprus problem has been the trees. they were cut down by the refugees for fire, but thats another story.

[CBBB]

certainly you got it wrong rw. critisising a government or a president is not the same as critisising the country. secondly is terkey alone responsible for this mess. if thats the case it is no wonder that we cannot have peace. first of all we must accept our responsibility for the mess we are in. perhaps then we can see the woods from the trees. ironic really because the one of the casualties of the cyprus problem has been the trees. they were cut down by the refugees for fire, but thats another story.

I was going to say that you do talk crap sometimes, but then I realised it was all the time.

[Lordo]

not as much as you asshole. some of us lived in the crap you bastards created.