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[repulsewarrior]

Seeing that a joint venture is impossible i think Maras should be opened up by the TRNC and its old inhabitants invited back to start rebuilding this once magnificent city,

...so let me see if i got this right; you want "Greeks" as "you" call them, to become the poster child of a "peace operation", as "Turks", without any recognition that they are Cypriots, first: vp, you can't even say Famagusta, which by any stretch is what we are talking about.

...you're right, a joint venture to open "Maras" is impossible, but how is that the, as you call them, GCs' fault?

[Nikitas]

Typical of Lordo and symptomatic of the problem. The GCs created a city, out of swamps, and gave it a Turkish name. Which the Turkish Cypriots used quite happily till 1974. I never heard the name Maras till I joined this forum. All my TC friends called the place Varosha.
The least used name for the place is the pure Greek name Ammohostos. But no one on the Greek side ever tried to impose it, or discourage the use of the other two names, Varosi and Famagusta.

Then came the "purification" Turkish name was deemed not pure enough, and they changed it to Maras. If you cannot see the perversion in this process you can't really understand the Cyprus problem, let alone try to solve it.

Opening it to its true owners would be a funny exercise in futility. Even Eroglu can see the dangers of that. Forty thousand GCs move in and elect their mayor. They refuse to have TC police, and appoint their own, they refuse to pay tax to the TRNC, and organize their own tax collection and administration. Forty thousand EU citizens doing what the EU deems lawful uner the local government devolution regulations would be treated how exactly by the regime? A quandary that shows that the idea was hare brained to start with. You cannot "allow" people to live under foreign occupation.

You want to do it right? Call the mayor of Varosi and hand him the symbolic keys to the city, withdraw all troops and offer assistance with the cleanup. That is how you build goodwill. But that is way beyond the bazaar mentality that the Turks have imbued the TCs with since 1974.

[Get Real!]

Seeing that a joint venture is impossible i think Maras should be opened up by the TRNC and its old inhabitants invited back to start rebuilding this once magnificent city,

You think it’s just a matter of home owners patching up their walls and sweeping the dirt?

Everything would have to be uprooted… the buildings, pavements, and all roads to comply with conventional standards for water, electricity, telephony, sewerage, etc.

[repulsewarrior]

Typical of Lordo and symptomatic of the problem. The GCs created a city, out of swamps, and gave it a Turkish name. Which the Turkish Cypriots used quite happily till 1974. I never heard the name Maras till I joined this forum. All my TC friends called the place Varosha.
The least used name for the place is the pure Greek name Ammohostos. But no one on the Greek side ever tried to impose it, or discourage the use of the other two names, Varosi and Famagusta.

Then came the "purification" Turkish name was deemed not pure enough, and they changed it to Maras. If you cannot see the perversion in this process you can't really understand the Cyprus problem, let alone try to solve it.

Opening it to its true owners would be a funny exercise in futility. Even Eroglu can see the dangers of that. Forty thousand GCs move in and elect their mayor. They refuse to have TC police, and appoint their own, they refuse to pay tax to the TRNC, and organize their own tax collection and administration. Forty thousand EU citizens doing what the EU deems lawful uner the local government devolution regulations would be treated how exactly by the regime? A quandary that shows that the idea was hare brained to start with. You cannot "allow" people to live under foreign occupation.

You want to do it right? Call the mayor of Varosi and hand him the symbolic keys to the city, withdraw all troops and offer assistance with the cleanup. That is how you build goodwill. But that is way beyond the bazaar mentality that the Turks have imbued the TCs with since 1974.

...well said.

[SKI-preo]

Why would you want to ruin the world’s biggest snake and reptile park?

I say leave it and charge an entrance fee!

Nobody’s got the money for anything else right now.

LOL Yes reptile Safari tours Buses 30 Euros, Cars 12 Euros.

[Viewpoint]

Typical of Lordo and symptomatic of the problem. The GCs created a city, out of swamps, and gave it a Turkish name. Which the Turkish Cypriots used quite happily till 1974. I never heard the name Maras till I joined this forum. All my TC friends called the place Varosha.
The least used name for the place is the pure Greek name Ammohostos. But no one on the Greek side ever tried to impose it, or discourage the use of the other two names, Varosi and Famagusta.

Then came the "purification" Turkish name was deemed not pure enough, and they changed it to Maras. If you cannot see the perversion in this process you can't really understand the Cyprus problem, let alone try to solve it.

Opening it to its true owners would be a funny exercise in futility. Even Eroglu can see the dangers of that. Forty thousand GCs move in and elect their mayor. They refuse to have TC police, and appoint their own, they refuse to pay tax to the TRNC, and organize their own tax collection and administration. Forty thousand EU citizens doing what the EU deems lawful uner the local government devolution regulations would be treated how exactly by the regime? A quandary that shows that the idea was hare brained to start with. You cannot "allow" people to live under foreign occupation.

You want to do it right? Call the mayor of Varosi and hand him the symbolic keys to the city, withdraw all troops and offer assistance with the cleanup. That is how you build goodwill. But that is way beyond the bazaar mentality that the Turks have imbued the TCs with since 1974.

Why are you so stuck up on names? when you only 50 years ago wanted to gift 100% the island to Greece? get over it we can call it what we want as I recall you people still refer to Istanbul as Constantinople so dont you think you are being a big hypocrite.

As for Maras I did offer a joint venture but their were no takers, so going it alone would mean the city would be under the control of the TRNC and its laws, if returning GCs did not want to abide by those laws then they would have to leave or be imprisoned just like anyone else in the TRNC.

If the city were to be handed over to the control of the GCs what exactly would be the partnership deal? how would both sides benefit from this "joint" venture?

[Lordo]

maras has always been maras since 1570. there is a maras in terkey too.