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[Main_Source]

Talat is only prepared to negotiate minor details to the Annan plan...this plan was a LOAD OF CRAP!...it totally screwed GC over.

We are prefectly entitled to a return of legality and all things that once belonged to refugees should be returned. We are also entitled to scrap the Annan plan because it was so flawed. Talat wants to make GC suffer and take our human rights away...of course he is as bad as Denktash. what you and Talat are asking for is two separate states in Cyprus and we will never agree to that.

You cannot ask RoC to meet Talat in the form of 'TRNC' leadership...because that entity has no legality and is unrecgnised. Its the same as Turkey not wanting to meet RoC officials...EVEN THOUGH it is a perfectly legal internationally recognised state.

I would expect an air head like you to say TPap wants division just because he doesnt want the Annan plan. Its our democratic right to vote no to such a flawed plan...it doesnt mean we dont want unification...we just dont want to sell ourselves out.

..and the whole affair with Ali Erel has shown Talat is not the angel TC make him out to be and has blatently shown his corrupt nature. If he is so for TC, why didnt he sell TC tomatoes...which money from would have gone back to the TC community.

[bg_turk]

Talat is read to have an informal meeting, where he will meet Papadopolous not in his capacity as the President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, but a leader of the TCs.

If a solution is to be ever reached such a meeting is unavoidable. Sooner or later it will happen.

Papadoupolos' refusal to meet is just an indicaiton of his inability to engage in serious unification discussions. His entire career is built on some cheap rhetoric which may work well with the domestic audience, but does not impress the international community much.

Why did Papadoupolos meet Denktash before the Annan plan? Can you give your interpretation of the event?

[sadik]

Fact no1. Tpap submitted what changes he wanted to the Annan plan. Talat wouldnt even look at them unless he received semi recognition first. He wouldnt even take into consideration acts of unification between the 2 communites unless he got semi-recognition.

Fact no 2. Talat sacked a government official for telling the truth that Turkish Cypriot tomatoes that were to be sold via the south were infact from Turkey.

Again, you expect to respct Talat after this? He's just like Denktash but a bit cleverer with PR.

Main_Source,

Talat and Denktas as fundamentally different in the was they look at the Cyprus Problem. Denktas is against any kind of solution to the Cyprus problem that falls short of recognition of the TRNC. Talat, on the other hand, has said yes to the Annan plan and at least demonstrated that he is not against a solution in general and returning land and property, and pulling out Turkish troops in particular. Talat has never said that he wants recognition for the TRNC. There is very little in common between Talat and Denktas.

The issue of tomatoes is not very clear to judge Talat on that. Ali Erel said some minister in the goverment asked him to issue certificates of origin for tomatoes coming from Turkey. He did not say it was Talat or his party that asked for this favor. As a matter of fact, it's very likely that the favor was asked by a minister from the small right wing coalition partner , and not from CTP.

The latest news event in the north for the last few days is Talat's not inviting Turkish generals and the Turkish ambassador to his public Ramadan reception. In the past, Denktas was organizing this event with generals and the Turkish ambassador. This lead Bulent Ecevit to call Talat indecent. Ecevit refers to Denktas as the "great leader". Another example that Denktas and Talat are not the same....

[bg_turk]

The latest news event in the north for the last few days is Talat's not inviting Turkish generals and the Turkish ambassador to his public Ramadan reception. In the past, Denktas was organizing this event with generals and the Turkish ambassador. This lead Bulent Ecevit to call Talat indecent. Ecevit refers to Denktas as the "great leader". Another example that Denktas and Talat are not the same....

I read that too. It caused a small diplomatic crisis between Turkey and the TRNC, no?

[Main_Source]

Sadik, Talat wanting the Annan plan to go through hardly shows he is for fair reunification does it.

[BirKibrisli]

I think Talat is proving himself more cunning and more capable than I gave him credit for. This move (not inviting the generals and the Turkish Ambassador) is designed to give the signal that Talat,as the president of the TRNC is nobody's puppet.The plan was probably hatched in the USA while he was there visiting Condee Rice,and it would have to be taken with Turkey's approval.But still it will put plenty of pressure on Tpap in the international arena.

[Nicko]

What was wrong with the Tomatoes?

[bg_turk]

They were produced by Mongolians in Turkey

[Main_Source]

The tomatoes were produced in Turkey and not in Cyprus. They were sent to the south to be shipped out. You have to ask what was wrong with Turkish Cypriot tomatoes and why the business didnt go to them.

[bg_turk]

Denkash was angel compared to Talat

Kypros Chrysostomides accused Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat of “negligence and political audacity” yesterday, adding that Rauf Denktash was an “angel compared to today’s leadership”.