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[Viewpoint]

Man you idiots appear more concerned about the incident than Turkey or İsrael, for gods sake Turkey tried to help those people trapped in the Gaza by taking aid and supplies where 9 people were killed and what are you morons doing making the usual round of excuses to try and cleanse your own dirty feeling of guilt and stupidity... the apology has been made and accepted you are nothing in grand scale of things and your claims make absolutely no change to the outcome....what you should be concentrating on is what comes after this and how will it effect you and your relations with Israel, as I have stated before ts the big boys that count and that play the game and unfortunately we are not the big boys only difference between us is we know it you dont...which makes you doubly stupid.

[Maximus]

we digress and peace is best.

Normalizing ties between Israel and Turkey is one of the most pressing issues on the Israeli governments agenda, Ze’ev Elkin said, but it was not possible to return to the warm relations that previously existed. The Mavi Marmara raid was not the motive behind the thaw. “Turkey has geopolitical aspirations in the region and its position on Israel is influenced by those ideas,” he said

Reconciliation with Turkey serves “several Israeli interests,”

1. The conflict with Syria
2. Iran's nuclear program
3. Israel cooperating with NATO

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=352

[Viewpoint]

Well done you have shown you can look at the bigger picture unlike the pea brains who are still trying to console their own stupidity by trying to prove only to themselves that an apology is not an apology.

[Lordo]

can we clear up one thing though kik baby. do you agree with what israel did. do you agree twith the way they murdered those unarmed people in the international waters.

when it comes to why israel will not be brought to book for it is very simple. i would have thought a man of your intellect would understand it but i was wrong.

all whores are well protected by their pipms, right.

[Kikapu]

Not at all.

"Israel's prime minister has apologised to Turkey for "any errors that could have led to loss of life" during the 2010 commando raid on an aid flotilla that tried to breach the Gaza blockade."

This is not the apology Turkey wanted but were forced to accept it. Israel already offered "regret" in killing the 9 Turks, as well as offered compensation, but was refused by Erdogan because Erdogan thought he can be the big guy in the neighbourhood, but the USA saw to that and made him accept something even less, just because it had the word "apologise" in it, but it's in an apology for any errors that could have led to loss of life. Nothing about an apology in killing 9 Turks, nothing, and the blockade is still there in Gaza, another one of Erdogan's 3 demands. No wonder Israel "apologised", because Erdogan caved in under US pressure to accept this watered down version on what Erdogan wanted. Once again it shows that Erdogan does not have convictions, but only being an opportunists. It happens in politics.

Just one more thing. Unless Erdogan started to play to the USA's tune, he was not going to get an invitation to come to Washington to meet with Obama. Now he will get an invitation soon to be able to go.

Well, just as predicted, Erdogan is on his way to Washington on May 16th, after an invitation extended to him by Obama, because Erdogan was told to accept the non apology apology from Israel or else no invitation to Washington for him. Erdogan has been trying to go to Washington for a while now, but he was not going to get an invitation from the White House, hence the reason why he passed on going to New York for the UN General assembly last September with a silly excuses that he couldn't go. He had already held Gül back from going to New York with a phony ear infection excuse so that he can go instead, but when he found out that Obama was not going to meet with him, then he backed out altogether. Now that Erdogan accepted the non apology apology he get's an invitation from the White House, just only a week or two after caving in to all his demands to Israel by accepting Israel's non apology apology. Looks like Israel hit the Jackpot by Erdogan not keeping to his convictions, again. As I have stated many times, that Erdogan (Turkey) has no convictions but rather he is an opportunist. Obama must have said to Erdogan, "accept Israel's non apology apology or else you will not get a invitation from me", so Erdogan had accepted Israel's non apology apology right there and then at all cost.

Turkish PM Erdoğan set to embark on US visit on May 16

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s long-expected meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama will take place on May 16, the Hürriyet Daily News has learned from official sources. An invitation letter to Erdoğan was extended to the Turkish Foreign Ministry on Tuesday. The ministry and the office of the prime minister have now started to work on the program of Erdoğan, who is expected to depart for the U.S. one or two days before his scheduled meeting.

The intention for a prime ministerial visit to Washington was brought to the attention of the Obama administration after the presidential elections in the U.S., but disagreements over a number of issues and Turkey’s ongoing dispute with Israel nixed Ankara’s plans. The visit could only be possible after Israeli apologized to Turkey and Turkey accepted this apology, under the mediation of Obama, who played a crucial role in the process. “The visit of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to Washington was fixed in a phone conversation on the day Israel apologized to Turkey,” diplomatic sources said. Erdoğan and Obama had a phone conversation on March 22, after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu read the apology statement on the phone.

Gov’t to persuade families to withdraw lawsuits

Another important development along this process will be Erdoğan’s expected visit to Palestine, but sources underlined that this has yet to be finalized.

However, the success of this process depends on the ability of the two sides to sort out the compensation issue. Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu and Bülent Arınç were scheduled to meet with the families of the Mavi Marmara victims late Tuesday. The reason for the meeting is to convince the families to withdraw the cases they have opened against the Israeli soldiers who killed their relatives.

According to Arınç, Israel’s acceptance of paying compensation would lead to the withdrawal of the lawsuits. “Two things cannot happen at the same time: They [the families] will either accept the compensation or they will wait for the conclusion of the lawsuits,” he said in a televised interview. He also went further, saying that all 10 families of the victims should accept Israeli compensation, otherwise it would not be possible for Turkey and Israel to reach a deal.
April/03/2013

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkis ... sCatID=429

[Viewpoint]

This last post of yours takes the biscuit "accept Israels apology or we wont invite you to the whitehouse" shit is just that shit. You are a drowning ignorant sole whose little credibility has been shot to pieces , people are not as ignorant as you want them to be and can see right through your feeble antics.

[Kikapu]

This last post of yours takes the biscuit "accept Israels apology or we wont invite you to the whitehouse" shit is just that shit. You are a drowning ignorant sole whose little credibility has been shot to pieces , people are not as ignorant as you want them to be and can see right through your feeble antics.

Eat my dust, VP!

The intention for a prime ministerial visit to Washington was brought to the attention of the Obama administration after the presidential elections in the U.S., but disagreements over a number of issues and Turkey’s ongoing dispute with Israel nixed Ankara’s plans.

Erdogan wanted to go since last year on an official visit, but was rejected by Washington. He could have come as a tourist and visited Disneyland, no problem, but not unless he would back down on Israel, which is what he did by accepting the non apology apology. Very simple for anyone who isn't an illiterate to see it. That's why you can't see it.

The visit could only be possible after Israeli apologized to Turkey and Turkey accepted this apology, under the mediation of Obama, who played a crucial role in the process.

So Israel cooked up a non apology apology and told Erdogan over the phone without signing or admitting to anything, "witnessed" by Obama and no one else, just so to save face by Erdogan, he accepted the non apology apology in order to get a official invitation to Washington, and he got it, just as I predicted. Erdogan is more transparent than you think, but hell, you couldn't even see if a Cyprus size meteor was coming towards earth before hitting it.

[Maximus]

Erdogan is being led into a trap and Obama is telling him what he wants to hear and what to do. None of what is happening in Syria or what could happen in Iran is in Turkeys interests. If he thinks he is going to emerge from this new middle east project as the sultan of the region he is deluded but they (the US and Israel) are feeding him with the recognition which he craves and manipulating him to their own end.

Turkey is now taking the brunt of the war against Syria with the refugees and is also serving jihadists to infiltrate and cause mayhem. The fallout is more country's in the (east) region which will join the ranks of country's that already 'hate' Turkey (Israel will not trust Turkey again, regardless of the non apology apology). Forget about being a bridge between east and west, just forget it. Turkey is making more enemy's in the east as a result of this meddling in Syria's internal affairs.

The two buffoons at Turkey's helm, Erdogan and Duvatoglu are lying to their electorate and making huge mistakes. Turkey is on a downward spiral towards the unknown in pursuit of her neo ottoman dreams but the next country to lose the most relative to Syria is Turkey. Turkey is losing now.

[Lordo]

maximagimu you have been reading too much of what your fascist friend has posting here.
kikapooimmu you have poisoned this young mans mind. stop it you here,

[Paphitis]

Oh you guys are sooo funny!

I am all for helping the Palestinians out. In fact, I do not agree with Israel's blockade even though there are terrorism and security concerns. Too many really innocent Palestinians suffering. So I am against Israel on this.

I also support the Aid Ships for bringing in much needed medicine, medical equipment, food and and warm clothing and books for the children. How can anyone not support that?

The Aid Ships were actually doing great work in getting this aid to the Palestinians until the Islamist Turks came along and ruined everything and toughened Israel's stance.

The UN and the entire world, including Israel's best ally, the US were against Israel's blockade. But when the Turks came along, the Israelis were able to legitimize the Blockade as it actually got a judgement in its favour that the blockade is legal.

So not only did the Turks not help the Palestinians, but they stuffed this humanitarian cause right up against the Palestinian's interests.

So in actual fact, I believe the Islamist Turks owe the Palestinians an apology for making the transfer of aid more difficult!