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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Nikitas » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:47 pm

Israel yesterday announced that the blockade of Ghaza stays as it has been since 2008. Zero problems policy and all that.
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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Lordo » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:32 pm

Nikitas wrote:Israel yesterday announced that the blockade of Ghaza stays as it has been since 2008. Zero problems policy and all that.


it only makes the un look exactly like it is. toothless.
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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Kikapu » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:07 am

This reporter is not an illiterate like VP, Lordo and MR-from-NG! :wink:

Let’s start with the “apology.”

It is not the first time that Turkey and Israel agreed on a Mavi Marmara apology and compensation. The two countries, as a result of secret diplomacy they conducted, were close to reconciliation in June 2011 and even produced a draft document dated June 18-19, 2011. The apology in that document was categorically expressed as an “apology” in English. The only annotation Turkey attached to this document was the description of the incident and that was directly related to the incident. Well, it is correct that the account of the incident should be agreed on first. Only after this can it be decided for what an apology is needed and that apology could be accepted by Turkey. At the beginning of the draft document it was written that “The deaths and injuries on the Mavi Marmara did not happen intentionally.” Turkey was saying just the opposite, that is, the activists were killed intentionally and not by a mistake of the Israeli soldiers.

It is now understood that Turkey, as of the phone conversation between Erdoğan and Netanyahu dated March 22, has tacitly accepted the Israeli account that the deaths on the Mavi Marmara were not intentional but a result of operational mistake, when it accepted Israel’s apology.

It is impossible to think otherwise when the official statement issued by Erdoğan’s office after the phone conversation is read. The statement said, “Netanyahu apologized to Turkish people on behalf of Israel for all kinds of operational mistakes that led to loss of human life and injuries and Erdoğan has accepted this apology.”

As a result, by accepting the apology of “death by mistake” instead of intentionally, Ankara has taken a constructive step back from the initial position it approached the subject with.

More on the blockade :arrow:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/true-s ... sCatID=413
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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:15 am

Kikapu wrote:This reporter is not an illiterate like VP, Lordo and MR-from-NG! :wink:

Let’s start with the “apology.”

It is not the first time that Turkey and Israel agreed on a Mavi Marmara apology and compensation. The two countries, as a result of secret diplomacy they conducted, were close to reconciliation in June 2011 and even produced a draft document dated June 18-19, 2011. The apology in that document was categorically expressed as an “apology” in English. The only annotation Turkey attached to this document was the description of the incident and that was directly related to the incident. Well, it is correct that the account of the incident should be agreed on first. Only after this can it be decided for what an apology is needed and that apology could be accepted by Turkey. At the beginning of the draft document it was written that “The deaths and injuries on the Mavi Marmara did not happen intentionally.” Turkey was saying just the opposite, that is, the activists were killed intentionally and not by a mistake of the Israeli soldiers.

It is now understood that Turkey, as of the phone conversation between Erdoğan and Netanyahu dated March 22, has tacitly accepted the Israeli account that the deaths on the Mavi Marmara were not intentional but a result of operational mistake, when it accepted Israel’s apology.

It is impossible to think otherwise when the official statement issued by Erdoğan’s office after the phone conversation is read. The statement said, “Netanyahu apologized to Turkish people on behalf of Israel for all kinds of operational mistakes that led to loss of human life and injuries and Erdoğan has accepted this apology.”

As a result, by accepting the apology of “death by mistake” instead of intentionally, Ankara has taken a constructive step back from the initial position it approached the subject with.

More on the blockade :arrow:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/true-s ... sCatID=413


You moron what does it change the world has accepted that Israel officially apologized to Turkey and agreed to pay compensation end of story, why are you so frustrated? is it becasue you have been proven wrong and look stupid once again or that you hate Turkey so much that you cannot diggest the fact that she is a regional power?....the real issue is what is going on behind the scenes and what collabaration will develop between the 2 countries which the USA appears to support displayed through her active role in extracting this apology.
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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Kikapu » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:41 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:This reporter is not an illiterate like VP, Lordo and MR-from-NG! :wink:

Let’s start with the “apology.”

It is not the first time that Turkey and Israel agreed on a Mavi Marmara apology and compensation. The two countries, as a result of secret diplomacy they conducted, were close to reconciliation in June 2011 and even produced a draft document dated June 18-19, 2011. The apology in that document was categorically expressed as an “apology” in English. The only annotation Turkey attached to this document was the description of the incident and that was directly related to the incident. Well, it is correct that the account of the incident should be agreed on first. Only after this can it be decided for what an apology is needed and that apology could be accepted by Turkey. At the beginning of the draft document it was written that “The deaths and injuries on the Mavi Marmara did not happen intentionally.” Turkey was saying just the opposite, that is, the activists were killed intentionally and not by a mistake of the Israeli soldiers.

It is now understood that Turkey, as of the phone conversation between Erdoğan and Netanyahu dated March 22, has tacitly accepted the Israeli account that the deaths on the Mavi Marmara were not intentional but a result of operational mistake, when it accepted Israel’s apology.

It is impossible to think otherwise when the official statement issued by Erdoğan’s office after the phone conversation is read. The statement said, “Netanyahu apologized to Turkish people on behalf of Israel for all kinds of operational mistakes that led to loss of human life and injuries and Erdoğan has accepted this apology.”

As a result, by accepting the apology of “death by mistake” instead of intentionally, Ankara has taken a constructive step back from the initial position it approached the subject with.

More on the blockade :arrow:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/true-s ... sCatID=413


You moron what does it change the world has accepted that Israel officially apologized to Turkey and agreed to pay compensation end of story, why are you so frustrated? is it becasue you have been proven wrong and look stupid once again or that you hate Turkey so much that you cannot diggest the fact that she is a regional power?....the real issue is what is going on behind the scenes and what collabaration will develop between the 2 countries which the USA appears to support displayed through her active role in extracting this apology.


I'm just pointing out that Erdogan had backed down from his position of 3 years in wanting a real apology from Israel to something he has accepted that was far far less under USA pressure, and that you, Lordo and MR-from-NG are illiterate, that's all. :D
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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Maximus » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:31 pm

Speaking at a public rally held in Eskişehir on the 25th, Erdogan sounded a note of caution. “We have said that an apology must be offered, compensation must be paid, and the embargo on Palestine must be lifted. Normalization will not happen as long as these are not fulfilled,” he said.

Erdogan has accepted the apology but I think there has been a misunderstanding about the embargo, which Erdogan will realise, repudiating Israels apology and take the relationship backwards still.
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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:43 pm

If we are illiterate then you must be a 100% guaranteed moron as to date all your predictions have fallen flat thats why you are so sick all you have left is to throw around insults in the hope that a few sheep who hang on every word you say will lick your arse.

Move on the apology has been made and accepted...next.
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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:44 pm

Maximus wrote:Speaking at a public rally held in Eskişehir on the 25th, Erdogan sounded a note of caution. “We have said that an apology must be offered, compensation must be paid, and the embargo on Palestine must be lifted. Normalization will not happen as long as these are not fulfilled,” he said.

Erdogan has accepted the apology but I think there has been a misunderstanding about the embargo, which Erdogan will realise, repudiating Israels apology and take the relationship backwards still.


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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Kikapu » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:54 pm

Viewpoint wrote:If we are illiterate then you must be a 100% guaranteed moron as to date all your predictions have fallen flat thats why you are so sick all you have left is to throw around insults in the hope that a few sheep who hang on every word you say will lick your arse.

Move on the apology has been made and accepted...next.


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Re: israel finally says sorry

Postby Kikapu » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:18 pm

Maximus wrote:Speaking at a public rally held in Eskişehir on the 25th, Erdogan sounded a note of caution. “We have said that an apology must be offered, compensation must be paid, and the embargo on Palestine must be lifted. Normalization will not happen as long as these are not fulfilled,” he said.

Erdogan has accepted the apology but I think there has been a misunderstanding about the embargo, which Erdogan will realise, repudiating Israels apology and take the relationship backwards still.



It's too late. He had accepted a non apology apology and Israel is laughing their heads off for the non-apology apology, over a telephone no less. After 3 years, not even a written apology but a over a telephone conversation with a non apology apology. Probably another illiterate, friends of VP, Lordo and MR-from-NG who interpreted the conversation to Erdogan said to him once he heard the word "apology" from Netanyahu, "hey boss, he used the word apology, so you win boss, you win, the great brave leader that you are bringing that dirty Jew to his knees" :lol:. Erdogan asked the illiterate what did the rest of the message said, and the illiterate said, "ohh, nothing much boss, just words, that's all, just empty words, but you win boss, you win" :lol: and illiterate did not understand the rest of the context in the conversation which was that Israel was not apologizing in killing the 9 Turks at all, but actually apologising for making errors that could have lead to loss of life.

Now Erdogan is having second thoughts about the "apology" that he has been made fool of, specially once he has read my post here in him accepting a non apology apology from Israel.. :lol:
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