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[Sotos]

I am 100% Cypriot Russian Federation is a country. EU is a union of countries. Commonwealth doesn't have any practical cause... so what you say is really meaningless. Regarding the bases the Russians would be indeed more welcome instead of the British ... I am sure they would give at least something in return for them, unlike the UK.

Sotos
Some would say that Chechnya and Dagastan, for example, are not a part of the Russian Federation but separate countries in their own right. Once you get into bed with the Russians you will very soon realise the error of your ways and may even fall into the same morass that the above named places are in plus you may want to update yourself on the situation in Georgia.

The SBA's are exactly that and the Russians will not get access to them. Once they get their feet into the door that is Cyprus you will find that the much vaunted gas find will be usurped for the benefit of Russia only and all the profits will either go to Moscow or into bank accounts of the Russian Oligarchs who by that time will have complete control of everything that you as citizens of Cyprus currently take for granted. God help you all if you go down that route.

The Russians never stole anything from Cyprus. Any deals we have with them are 100% voluntary for the mutual benefit of both countries. This is in sharp contrast with the British that blackmailed us to steal from us 2 parts of our island. For Cyprus the "Russian Oligarchs" are nowhere as bad as the British Imperialists.... history proves this.

[Sotos]

As cyprusgrump rightly points out the SBA's were set up as a part of the Independence process but please do not let the facts get in the way of your fatuous claims.

Yes, the Russians never occupied Cyprus and they never blackmailed us that to let Cyprus free we should give to them parts of our island. Doesn't this prove my point?

[kurupetos]

The problem is not the SBAs, but the failure to fulfil the Treaty of Guarantee:

Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom, taking note of the undertakings of

the Republic of Cyprus set out in Article I of the present Treaty, recognise and

guarantee the independence, territorial integrity and security of the Republic

of Cyprus, and also the state of affairs established by the Basic Articles of its

Constitution.

Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom likewise undertake to prohibit, so far

as concerns them, any activity aimed at promoting, directly or indirectly, either

union of Cyprus with any other State or partition of the Island.

In the event of a breach of the provisions of the present Treaty, Greece,

Turkey and the United Kingdom undertake to consult together with respect to

the representations or measures necessary to ensure observance of those

provisions.

In so far as common or concerted action may not prove possible, each the

three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim

of re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty.

For the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:
Hugh Foot

[B25]

I am 100% Cypriot Russian Federation is a country. EU is a union of countries. Commonwealth doesn't have any practical cause... so what you say is really meaningless. Regarding the bases the Russians would be indeed more welcome instead of the British ... I am sure they would give at least something in return for them, unlike the UK.

Sotos
Some would say that Chechnya and Dagastan, for example, are not a part of the Russian Federation but separate countries in their own right. Once you get into bed with the Russians you will very soon realise the error of your ways and may even fall into the same morass that the above named places are in plus you may want to update yourself on the situation in Georgia.

The SBA's are exactly that and the Russians will not get access to them. Once they get their feet into the door that is Cyprus you will find that the much vaunted gas find will be usurped for the benefit of Russia only and all the profits will either go to Moscow or into bank accounts of the Russian Oligarchs who by that time will have complete control of everything that you as citizens of Cyprus currently take for granted. God help you all if you go down that route.

David, welcome to the forum, we don't particularly want to get into bed with anyone, but as the west is spurning us we have to survive and the only (so it seems) person showing any willingness to help is Russia. We has a similar problem in 1974 regarding alignment with the russians and your US and wonderful UK fucked us by assisting turkey to invade us. They now hold 37% of our country, so why you think it is so bad for Russia to be hear is anyones guess.
The amount of money we are seeking is pocket money for the UK/US/EU they could easy our current pain so we wouldn't have to fall in the arms of the Russians.

As for the SBA, they are on a time frame, they were illegally installed and will be removed for and imperialist tendencies by you or the the DOG you can stick up your asses.

We don't want Russian warships here, we don't want British troops here and we certainly don't want Turkish shit here either.

Thank you for your interest, but please don't be a smart arse!

Have a nice day.

I thought they were set up as part of the treaty of independence...?

Independence, ha bloody ha!

You imposed upon us a plan that was designed to fail to safe guard the base areas. You claim they were part of the treaty of Bollocks (sorry I can't bring my self to say the Inde..... word, as it is a F joke), yet so was the guarantee. So you pick and choose what you want to apply huh?
The bases were never welcome here and are still not. We are not talking about the ave brit, we are talking military bases. And yes DOG, they owe us rent, billions of it.
If you paid your rents, then we wouldn't need your commonwealth help. Tell QEII that the days of kingdoms, kings and Queens are long over, you have lived of the backs of the poor for far too long, time to stand down!!!

As for the ignorant David person, you need to read up how your beloved UK brought the Turks to our shores with the aid of the US, may they all go to hell. Again, as for the Russians, what is the west going to do to prevent them getting into Cyprus now??????

[danny1234]

I am 100% Cypriot Russian Federation is a country. EU is a union of countries. Commonwealth doesn't have any practical cause... so what you say is really meaningless. Regarding the bases the Russians would be indeed more welcome instead of the British ... I am sure they would give at least something in return for them, unlike the UK.

Sotos
Some would say that Chechnya and Dagastan, for example, are not a part of the Russian Federation but separate countries in their own right. Once you get into bed with the Russians you will very soon realise the error of your ways and may even fall into the same morass that the above named places are in plus you may want to update yourself on the situation in Georgia.

The SBA's are exactly that and the Russians will not get access to them. Once they get their feet into the door that is Cyprus you will find that the much vaunted gas find will be usurped for the benefit of Russia only and all the profits will either go to Moscow or into bank accounts of the Russian Oligarchs who by that time will have complete control of everything that you as citizens of Cyprus currently take for granted. God help you all if you go down that route.

The Russians never stole anything from Cyprus. Any deals we have with them are 100% voluntary for the mutual benefit of both countries. This is in sharp contrast with the British that blackmailed us to steal from us 2 parts of our island. For Cyprus the "Russian Oligarchs" are nowhere as bad as the British Imperialists.... history proves this.

Give them time, they will, and then see how you feel.

[supporttheunderdog]

only and all the profits will either go to Moscow or into bank accounts of the Russian Oligarchs who by that time will have complete control of everything that you as citizens of Cyprus currently take for granted. God help you all if you go down that route.

David, welcome to the forum, we don't particularly want to get into bed with anyone, but as the west is spurning us we have to survive and the only (so it seems) person showing any willingness to help is Russia. We has a similar problem in 1974 regarding alignment with the russians and your US and wonderful UK fucked us by assisting turkey to invade us. [/quote]

the US yes and Soviet Union too, on the quite, but not the UK

Read this and wind yer neck in B25...

http://www2.lse.ac.uk/europeanInstitute/research/hellenicObservatory/pdf/3rd_Symposium/PAPERS/CONSTANDINOS_ANDREAS.pdf

Lets nail that Anti Brit lie good and proper.

Blame the Yanks, the Greeks and the Tur*s for 74. Not the Brits. we were in f*cking mess at home and had no coherent foreign policy. .

The Brits knew SFA about American plans - not surprsing when the then PM was thought to be a Soviet Spy. The problem partly arose because Britain was thinking of abandoning the SBA against US wishea, as it was thought Big Mak would climb into bed with the Soviets, and gift the Eastern Med to them, the Yanks and Greeks cooked up a plan to get rid of big Mak.

Britain did not play ball as it rescued big Mak. Indeed on one analysis they should probably have fought the Coupists. The Tur*s then used the Coup as an excuse to invade, which excuse they they would not have had if Cypriots had not gone along with the coup plans, and Britain was all for military action against Turkey to stop invasion but they too were shafted by Kissinger, as he was very much in love with the Tur*s.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Maybe you would prefer a form of Russian Imperialism as purveyed by Putin and his lackeys.

That's racist.

Haven't you heard - there's no more cold war. Glasnost!

[GreekIslandGirl]

I am 100% Cypriot Russian Federation is a country. EU is a union of countries. Commonwealth doesn't have any practical cause... so what you say is really meaningless. Regarding the bases the Russians would be indeed more welcome instead of the British ... I am sure they would give at least something in return for them, unlike the UK.

Sotos
Some would say that Chechnya and Dagastan, for example, are not a part of the Russian Federation but separate countries in their own right. Once you get into bed with the Russians you will very soon realise the error of your ways and may even fall into the same morass that the above named places are in plus you may want to update yourself on the situation in Georgia.

The SBA's are exactly that and the Russians will not get access to them. Once they get their feet into the door that is Cyprus you will find that the much vaunted gas find will be usurped for the benefit of Russia only and all the profits will either go to Moscow or into bank accounts of the Russian Oligarchs who by that time will have complete control of everything that you as citizens of Cyprus currently take for granted. God help you all if you go down that route.

Sounds like you really hate Russians. What have they ever done to you? Or are you jut racist?

[Davidindevon]

I am 100% Cypriot Russian Federation is a country. EU is a union of countries. Commonwealth doesn't have any practical cause... so what you say is really meaningless. Regarding the bases the Russians would be indeed more welcome instead of the British ... I am sure they would give at least something in return for them, unlike the UK.

Sotos
Some would say that Chechnya and Dagastan, for example, are not a part of the Russian Federation but separate countries in their own right. Once you get into bed with the Russians you will very soon realise the error of your ways and may even fall into the same morass that the above named places are in plus you may want to update yourself on the situation in Georgia.

The SBA's are exactly that and the Russians will not get access to them. Once they get their feet into the door that is Cyprus you will find that the much vaunted gas find will be usurped for the benefit of Russia only and all the profits will either go to Moscow or into bank accounts of the Russian Oligarchs who by that time will have complete control of everything that you as citizens of Cyprus currently take for granted. God help you all if you go down that route.

Sounds like you really hate Russians. What have they ever done to you? Or are you jut racist?

I am not anti Russian per se but it appears you are anti British with your nastiness. With regard to the Russians look back at their recent history and tell me they are a God fearing, humanitarian, freedom loving democracy. As mentioned in an earlier post you and your like will happily welcome them soon and then you can 'enjoy' their presence at first hand. God help you.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I am 100% Cypriot Russian Federation is a country. EU is a union of countries. Commonwealth doesn't have any practical cause... so what you say is really meaningless. Regarding the bases the Russians would be indeed more welcome instead of the British ... I am sure they would give at least something in return for them, unlike the UK.

Sotos
Some would say that Chechnya and Dagastan, for example, are not a part of the Russian Federation but separate countries in their own right. Once you get into bed with the Russians you will very soon realise the error of your ways and may even fall into the same morass that the above named places are in plus you may want to update yourself on the situation in Georgia.

The SBA's are exactly that and the Russians will not get access to them. Once they get their feet into the door that is Cyprus you will find that the much vaunted gas find will be usurped for the benefit of Russia only and all the profits will either go to Moscow or into bank accounts of the Russian Oligarchs who by that time will have complete control of everything that you as citizens of Cyprus currently take for granted. God help you all if you go down that route.

Sounds like you really hate Russians. What have they ever done to you? Or are you jut racist?

I am not anti Russian per se but it appears you are anti British with your nastiness. With regard to the Russians look back at their recent history and tell me they are a God fearing, humanitarian, freedom loving democracy. As mentioned in an earlier post you and your like will happily welcome them soon and then you can 'enjoy' their presence at first hand. God help you.

When you make evaluations on people, based simply on what you have read or heard, rather than from some all-encompassing personal experience, then you are simply racist. When you refer to someone as "you and your like" (as you do above), you are either trolling for trouble or simply a racist. When you believe you have some self-assessed superior outlook that you want to force on another nation (for their own 'good') as you present us with, then you are a racist.

Most people condemning some action or other of Britain on this forum do so because they relate to the politics of suffering that Cypriots personally face from British foreign policy - and not through any "nastiness".