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by **observer** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:03 pm

GreekIslandGirl

No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:

I always enjoy your entries, and am looking forward to your explanation of why white is black, and black is white.

by **cyprusgrump** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:05 pm

observer wrote:GreekIslandGirl
No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:

I always enjoy your entries, and am looking forward to your explanation of why white is black, and black is white.

by **Demonax** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:08 pm

Good interview with Professor Pissarides - the Nobel prize winner - on this fiasco:

As a native of Cyprus, how does this episode make you feel?

I am appalled by the decision of the euro group. The idea of the single currency and monetary union was that we had a union of equal partners helping each other in difficult times. Here we have a big partner (Germany) bullying a small one, for what is perceived by the small one to be political reasons. And the Cypriot depositors caught in the fire are an unfortunate collateral damage.

Do you favor or oppose taxes on bank depositors?

I am totally against it. First, deposits under 100,000 are insured. What happened to that insurance? How could the euro group agree to taxing deposits as small as one euro? What is the meaning of deposit insurance in the euro zone? Second, deposits include the savings of honest people who have paid their taxes and saved for retirement, to buy a home, educate their children or whatever. Why pay a hefty additional tax? And how would these people feel when they woke up on Saturday morning to be told, “Sorry guys, we are not letting you withdraw your money anymore, until we sort out how to take a big chunk away from you.” And why? Because two banks out of the tens operating in Cyprus made bad investment decisions three years ago to help Greece out of its crisis, and got hit by the troika. What’s the incentive that banks now have in the European Union to treat risky investments with caution? If one of them takes bad risks the others will pay for it; if it works well for it, it will keep the profits. A classic scenario for market breakdown.

Was it a good or a bad idea for Cyprus to join the EU and the euro zone?

Small countries be warned when joining the euro zone. You could be bullied any time by your big brothers if it suits their political objectives.

Did the EU, ECB, and IMF inadequately monitor the Cypriot banking system?

No! They seem to think that all big depositors are Russians with dirty money. But after months of searching they couldn’t find a single one. In a large system two banks misbehaved and the troika solution is [to] destroy half the system. There are other ways of monitoring and regulating large banking systems, not through destruction and massive unemployment.

Is Cyprus overly dependent on financial activities—and if so, what can be done?

Cyprus is dependent on them just like Luxembourg, the Channel Islands, Hong Kong and Singapore are. Every mature small nation has a large financial system. Malta is building its own now, after joining the Eurozone, and is benefiting from the Cyprus fallout. Financial services is what Cypriots are trained to do. The system could be regulated more adequately and kept to its present size. Regulation in Cyprus followed the principles recommended by the ECB to the letter. The ECB needs to realise that there are members in the Union with different needs from those of Germany and devise rules that regulate the system, not try and make everyone like Germany.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... t-bank-tax

by **Demonax** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:33 pm

Shouldn't this thread be re-titled to 'Bail-out Rejected'?

by **kurupetos** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:38 pm

Demonax wrote:Shouldn't this thread be re-titled to 'Bail-out Rejected'?

Who's the idiot that started it?

Uh, oh! The silly rabbit! Let's cook him. I'm hungry! :twisted:

by **cyprusgrump** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:47 pm

Demonax wrote:Shouldn't this thread be re-titled to 'Bail-out Rejected'?

Or Bail-out Greed....

by **supporttheunderdog** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:53 pm

observer wrote:GreekIslandGirl
No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:

I always enjoy your entries, and am looking forward to your explanation of why white is black, and black is white.

But which government took the decision to massively increase public spending, turning a surplus into deficit ?

Deficit Increased Four Times To 1.2 Bln Euros 2007-2009 - Orphanides | Cyprus News Report
http://www.cyprusnewsreport.com/?q=node/5659

But which bankers took the decisions to make loans to property developers who went broke leaving the banks holding property which in the current market is is unsellable at prices demanded?

Banks should offload distressed properties - Cyprus Property News
http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2012/04/18/cyprus-banks-should-offload-distressed-property/id=0011228

But which bankers took the decisions to buy large amounts of Greek Bonds ?

Cyprus on financial brink from Greek exposure | Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/06/cyprus-eurozone-greece-idUSL5E8H578520120606

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:53 pm

observer wrote:GreekIslandGirl
No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:

I always enjoy your entries, and am looking forward to your explanation of why white is black, and black is white.

Are you still blaming Cyprus for this proposal, you racist?

by **cyprusgrump** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:56 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
observer wrote:GreekIslandGirl
No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:

I always enjoy your entries, and am looking forward to your explanation of why white is black, and black is white.

Are you still blaming Cyprus for this proposal, you racist?

What a loony! :twisted:

by **danny1234** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:33 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
observer wrote:GreekIslandGirl
No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:

I always enjoy your entries, and am looking forward to your explanation of why white is black, and black is white.

Are you still blaming Cyprus for this proposal, you racist?

You are an utter lunatic girl, you need to grasp reality.