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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:30 pm

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Maximus wrote:Turkey will choose the north of Cyprus over the EU. Turkish officials have stated this and they hold nothing sacred. They will lie, playing the victim and blaming others for and issue threeats to overcompensate for their ineptitude.


If there was no Cyprus occupation blocking Turkey’s EU path, then they would not be having second thoughts about joining the EU. They would not be stalling or playing games. It would still be a priority because Turkey would be better off in the EU than out of it. They know that really.

That still holds. What is Turkey gaining from occupying Cyprus? Other than some pathetic Ottoman fantasy? Nothing. No strategic benefit, no economic benefit, no diplomatic benefit. It maintains a corrupt little mafia thiefdom instead of a broader strategic vision. Let them cut off their noses if they wish. That is their choice.


Do you really think you are cleverer than Turkey? that you know more about international politics between the big boys, you are a very very small player and not taken very seriously otherwise the Cyprus issue would have been solved very many years ago. You are not clever enough to outfox Turkey or you would have found a way to get them to leave, you cant even win over the TC population, your blindness and intransigence plays right into their hands.
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:39 pm

whichever way we look at it, Turkeys occupation of Cyprus is a result of an illegal war crime. Turkey should unconditionally withdraw from the island and take the illegal settlers with her and then pay compensation to the RoC for the destruction caused by the invasion. If Turkey can normalize ties and cooperate for the better peace and stability of the region, she will have less obstacles, more money, more supporters and more friends.

Let the legitimate Turkish Cypriots decide for themselves whether they identify more with the republic of Cyprus or with Turkey and they can also move accordingly. There is no capitulation, no loss, no so called isolation. If you will, the "TRNC" will be somewhere else, within Turkeys internationally recognized borders.

Turkey should not cut off her nose despite your face and just let the Cypriot people be in peace, on their island, for sure. If Turkey can also do this now, when the Cypriot people are down, if she lends a true helping hand so they can get back on their feet, it would be even more beneficial to Turkeys favor.

It is simple but we are talking about Turkey FFS,
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Demonax » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:57 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Do you really think you are cleverer than Turkey? that you know more about international politics between the big boys, you are a very very small player and not taken very seriously otherwise the Cyprus issue would have been solved very many years ago.


I think it was a pretty clever move to link Turkey's EU accession hopes to a withdrawal from Cyprus. Very smart move if you ask me.
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:07 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Do you really think you are cleverer than Turkey? that you know more about international politics between the big boys, you are a very very small player and not taken very seriously otherwise the Cyprus issue would have been solved very many years ago.


I think it was a pretty clever move to link Turkey's EU accession hopes to a withdrawal from Cyprus. Very smart move if you ask me.


Result as always zilch...not one inch of land not one NG TC or soldier departure....pretty useless.
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:12 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Do you really think you are cleverer than Turkey? that you know more about international politics between the big boys, you are a very very small player and not taken very seriously otherwise the Cyprus issue would have been solved very many years ago.


I think it was a pretty clever move to link Turkey's EU accession hopes to a withdrawal from Cyprus. Very smart move if you ask me.


Me too, a smart move. check Turkey.

what is Turkey's next move?
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:16 pm

Maximus wrote:whichever way we look at it, Turkeys occupation of Cyprus is a result of an illegal war crime. Turkey should unconditionally withdraw from the island and take the illegal settlers with her and then pay compensation to the RoC for the destruction caused by the invasion. If Turkey can normalize ties and cooperate for the better peace and stability of the region, she will have less obstacles, more money, more supporters and more friends.

Let the legitimate Turkish Cypriots decide for themselves whether they identify more with the republic of Cyprus or with Turkey and they can also move accordingly. There is no capitulation, no loss, no so called isolation. If you will, the "TRNC" will be somewhere else, within Turkeys internationally recognized borders.

Turkey should not cut off her nose despite your face and just let the Cypriot people be in peace, on their island, for sure. If Turkey can also do this now, when the Cypriot people are down, if she lends a true helping hand so they can get back on their feet, it would be even more beneficial to Turkeys favor.

It is simple but we are talking about Turkey FFS,


Turkey intervened cause we messed up big time, now you cannot even persuade the TCs to take your side and find a solution that will get Turkey to leave. If as you call them legitimate TCs choose their own state on 25% of the island will you agree to it?

Turkey will never leave unless there is a solution to the problem she intervened to solve when will you understand this?
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby boulio » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:24 pm

if there was a agreement for the tc to get a state in the north for 25%,i still highly doubt turkey would leave.the tc state would just become as province of turkey.
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:28 pm

boulio wrote:if there was a agreement for the tc to get a state in the north for 25%,i still highly doubt turkey would leave.the tc state would just become as province of turkey.


Why would it concern you?
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:31 pm

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Turkey will never leave unless there is a solution to the problem she intervened to solve when will you understand this?


There is too much evidence to the contrary, Turkey is looking to steal and/or create an apartheid in Cyprus through a subordinate/proxy state.

Don't cut off your nose..........
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Re: Return of Famagusta And Turkey's EU Accession

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:48 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Turkey will never leave unless there is a solution to the problem she intervened to solve when will you understand this?


There is too much evidence to the contrary, Turkey is looking to steal and/or create an apartheid in Cyprus through a subordinate/proxy state.

Don't cut off your nose..........


If there was a solution that would benefit us we would get rid of Turkey for you no worries.
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