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by **cyprusgrump** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:59 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Yes you did and you repeated it. I never used quotes so I did not claim those were your exact words. Your point is still the same even above. We're back to you thinking that just because it's more difficult for the UK and Germany, that it's impossible for Cyprus!

The fact is that Solar will produce electricity more cheaply than coal, EVEN in a place like Germany, let alone a Southern European country like Cyprus.

Have you not understood the article at all?

If it were true, why would they be building coal fired power stations as fast as they could...? :roll:

Perhaps they will just work at night when there is no sunshine or during the winter when there is very little...? :lol:

The facts remain... Even in Cyprus where we are fortunate enough to have plenty of sunshine they do not build houses with solar as the primary source of energy...? Why is that do you think...?

And while you still claim I "insisted solar energy was not the future for Cyprus just because it's not suitable for the UK"...?" all your bluster and obfuscation cannot prove it to be so because I didn't ever claim it or say it or imply it! :roll:

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:10 pm

In that case, you don't even understand what you yourself are saying. You've made exactly the same point above, right now!

People are not making the most of Solar at the moment - but that's exactly what has to and will change. More research is needed and less of your anti-green propaganda.

by **Anippe** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:21 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:In that case, you don't even understand what you yourself are saying. You've made exactly the same point above, right now!

People are not making the most of Solar at the moment - but that's exactly what has to and will change. More research is needed and less of your anti-green propaganda.

Oh my Hellene you like a dog with bone Greekgirl. Are you still on computer. Do you not eat? I read in English paper this one woman she like you so obsessed with forum they had to take her to hospital. Her dogs die from starvation. The boy is correct. You lost now you are arguing for the sake of arguing. Very bitter -Think for two minutes how sad this is for you my dear girl.
Make some real friends get life. Day and night on this forum. I am off now out. byebye

by **cyprusgrump** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:26 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:In that case, you don't even understand what you yourself are saying. You've made exactly the same point above, right now!

No I haven't... :roll:

GreekIslandGirl wrote:People are not making the most of Solar at the moment - but that's exactly what has to and will change. More research is needed and less of your anti-green propaganda.

Ah, so when you said this: -

GreekIslandGirl wrote:There's no reason why most homes in Cyprus cannot move over to solar energy 100% even now!

You didn't mean "now", you meant at some undefined point in the future when the technology may have matured enough to make it possible...?

More research is needed because it simply isn't viable at the moment as I have been saying all along. :wink:

QED

OK?

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:52 pm

Hey CG - more research is needed to develop more antibiotics for the future. That doesn't mean we cannot use antibiotics NOW.

You know Solar is viable in Cyprus but politics holds this technology back because the petroleum industry is too powerful.

So homes in Cyprus can be Solar powered NOW - but that does not preclude the need for more research, which can only increase options and efficiency.

Surely you can see it's common sense.

by **Oceanside50** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:58 pm

What if it's cloudy and raining in Cyprus for a week or snowing on Troodos for a month(this is soooo funny), do all Cypriots skip their daily "douche"....until the sun comes out or the snow melts...

The technology really doesn't exist to the extent that one solar charge can last 3 months, for instance...

Should all Cypriots be stinky for One week out of the year or do what some companies are doing when they have to supply their big warehouses with cheap/clean power...

An American company Capstone Microturbines, has come up with a solution...their turbines fed with natural gas give electric power to company's buildings...

Also,

".....Mr. Son seems to be inclining toward natural
energy to shift from nuclear power, but solar power is useless for reducing nuclear power reliance. If all 10 mega-solar power plants are built, they will generate only 200,000 kW, or one-fifth the amount of one nuclear plant. Solar power generation requires 40 times the land area of nuclear power generation. The amount of land required to generate the one million kW of power produced by a nuclear plant would be equal to 1.5 times the land inside JR East’s Yamanote Line in Tokyo. Further, the solar power plants can’t be used on rainy days. It is not possible to rely on them to replace nuclear
Power..."

Also material that's used to build solar panels is becoming scarce:
"...The prospect of generating pollution-free power from the sun’s rays is appealing, but to-date the low price of oil combined with the high costs of developing new technology have prevented the widespread adoption of solar power in the United States and beyond. At a current cost of 25 to 50 cents per kilowatt-hour, solar power costs as much as five times
more than conventional fossil fuel-based electricity. And dwindling supplies of polysilicon, the element found in
traditional photovoltaic cells...". If the technology stays the same the price per kw of solar energy will go up.

Here's another article that puts into perspective solar energy and it's inefficiencies...

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/10 ... test_idea/

by **cyprusgrump** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:10 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Hey CG - more research is needed to develop more antibiotics for the future. That doesn't mean we cannot use antibiotics NOW.

You know Solar is viable in Cyprus but politics holds this technology back because the petroleum industry is too powerful.

So homes in Cyprus can be Solar powered NOW - but that does not preclude the need for more research, which can only increase options and efficiency.

Surely you can see it's common sense.

There are no politics holding the technology back - apart from in your conspiracy addled brain... :roll:

Quite the opposite in fact - governments across Europe will give you grants to install and subsidise the electricity you produce (at vast expense to taxpayers and other users as I have explained earlier)...

So why doesn't everybody in Cyprus simply install solar panels, and tell the electricity company to shove it (along with the company that delivers their gas or heating oil)...?

Because it is still not a viable solution to our energy needs...

Really, do you think with sky-high electricity prices and heating fuel costs people people would turn their back on solar if it was a viable solution...?

Just stop... and think (as Anippe suggested)... before posting again...

I bet you don't even have solar panels yourself! :lol:

by **Oceanside50** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:41 pm

I've got another idea, it's cheaper then all fuels ,sustainable and perfect for Cyprus...develop a mechanism where you can tether donkeys to, which Cyprus has plenty 2/4 legs, the donkeys walk around the mechanism and produce electricity for a house. It's cheap because you would only give the donkeys a handful of Ashero/hay a day. It's green/environmentally sound obviously and sustainable because you would have the extra donkeys banging each other all day producing more donkeys...Oh I almost forgot, this idea solves another problem also. If it's snowy or rainy the donkeys will still walk around the mechanism producing kilowattsand most likely will bang too..what a great idea!!

by **cyprusgrump** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:46 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:What if it's cloudy and raining in Cyprus for a week or snowing on Troodos for a month(this is soooo funny), do all Cypriots skip their daily "douche"....until the sun comes out or the snow melts...

The technology really doesn't exist to the extent that one solar charge can last 3 months, for instance...

Should all Cypriots be stinky for One week out of the year or do what some companies are doing when they have to supply their big warehouses with cheap/clean power...

An American company Capstone Microturbines, has come up with a solution...their turbines fed with natural gas give electric power to company's buildings...

Also,

".....Mr. Son seems to be inclining toward natural
energy to shift from nuclear power, but solar power is useless for reducing nuclear power reliance. If all 10 mega-solar power plants are built, they will generate only 200,000 kW, or one-fifth the amount of one nuclear plant. Solar power generation requires 40 times the land area of nuclear power generation. The amount of land required to generate the one million kW of power produced by a nuclear plant would be equal to 1.5 times the land inside JR East’s Yamanote Line in Tokyo. Further, the solar power plants can’t be used on rainy days. It is not possible to rely on them to replace nuclear
Power..."

Also material that's used to build solar panels is becoming scarce:
"...The prospect of generating pollution-free power from the sun’s rays is appealing, but to-date the low price of oil combined with the high costs of developing new technology have prevented the widespread adoption of solar power in the United States and beyond. At a current cost of 25 to 50 cents per kilowatt-hour, solar power costs as much as five times
more than conventional fossil fuel-based electricity. And dwindling supplies of polysilicon, the element found in
traditional photovoltaic cells...". If the technology stays the same the price per kw of solar energy will go up.

Here's another article that puts into perspective solar energy and it's inefficiencies...

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/10 ... test_idea/