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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:12 pm

kurupetos wrote:
B25 wrote:They are still hoping for tha Apology from Israel first :lol: :lol:

Huh? :shock: :?


Hmmmm

BBC News - Israel PM apologies for Gaza flotilla deaths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21902273

and now the Joke


PROKLITIKES STATEMENTS BAGIS
We propose to use the lira

Speaking to Turkish journalists, Bagis stated that the "G / C administration" rejected the Annan plan went so far as to declare bankruptcy while presiding the EU "We are not appropriate to smite him falling. Help them save God. The neighbor neighbor in need. " If no question, he said, to leave the euro, as the pseudostate and so G / C if they want to use the Turkish lira "we see this hot. We hope that political uncertainty there will be. "


http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb?-A=231444&-V=articles
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby kurupetos » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:29 pm

It seems Israel will abandon us as well. :(

Our only hope is Greece! Always was! :wink:
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:37 pm

kurupetos wrote:Our only hope is Greece! Always was! :wink:

Our only hope for what... disaster? Most definitely!
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby DT. » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:38 pm

Maintaining romantic ideals of Hellenism and the connection we feel with it is one thing. Expecting that we have anything to gain right now from a state (and I stress the word state) that has repeatedly turned its back to our interests in exchange for their own, as every state should do....is ridiculous.

There were at least 3 clear opportunities for Greece to take decisive and material actions that would have helped our cause but they didn't. The result right now is our 2nd largest bank being dismantled and the deposits of thousands of our compatriots and companies lost, while the deposits of the Greek depositors with Laiki have been safeguarded in full. This after years of Cypriot deposits being funnelled over to Greece to finance non-performing loans of Greek citizens and companies that eventually led to our insolvency. Where's the help now that their loans and deposits are being paid for by the Cypriot citizens?

I don't need friends like this, it's time for this country to stand on its own 2 feet with an economy that's viable and productive.
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby Cap » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:10 pm

Geez DT........


Here's a cup of coffee. Good morning.
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:50 pm

DT. wrote:Maintaining romantic ideals of Hellenism and the connection we feel with it is one thing. Expecting that we have anything to gain right now from a state (and I stress the word state) that has repeatedly turned its back to our interests in exchange for their own, as every state should do....is ridiculous.

There were at least 3 clear opportunities for Greece to take decisive and material actions that would have helped our cause but they didn't. The result right now is our 2nd largest bank being dismantled and the deposits of thousands of our compatriots and companies lost, while the deposits of the Greek depositors with Laiki have been safeguarded in full. This after years of Cypriot deposits being funnelled over to Greece to finance non-performing loans of Greek citizens and companies that eventually led to our insolvency. Where's the help now that their loans and deposits are being paid for by the Cypriot citizens?

I don't need friends like this, it's time for this country to stand on its own 2 feet with an economy that's viable and productive.


Yes, we should be standing on our two feet. But we can't. We have needed Greece as an ally and a heavy defense spender on our behalf for decades. Impoverished alongside us. You should know more than anyone that Greece was hit first and hardest; and we were next. Somewhere behind all this is the old 'divide and rule' policies, still at work. What a shame GR! has worn you down ...

Our main problem is we have a president who first said "yes" to giving away some of Greek Cypriots' rightful properties to Turks, and now said "yes", again, to giving away GCs' savings-deposits in order to help Russians. :roll:
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby DT. » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:04 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
DT. wrote:Maintaining romantic ideals of Hellenism and the connection we feel with it is one thing. Expecting that we have anything to gain right now from a state (and I stress the word state) that has repeatedly turned its back to our interests in exchange for their own, as every state should do....is ridiculous.

There were at least 3 clear opportunities for Greece to take decisive and material actions that would have helped our cause but they didn't. The result right now is our 2nd largest bank being dismantled and the deposits of thousands of our compatriots and companies lost, while the deposits of the Greek depositors with Laiki have been safeguarded in full. This after years of Cypriot deposits being funnelled over to Greece to finance non-performing loans of Greek citizens and companies that eventually led to our insolvency. Where's the help now that their loans and deposits are being paid for by the Cypriot citizens?

I don't need friends like this, it's time for this country to stand on its own 2 feet with an economy that's viable and productive.


Yes, we should be standing on our two feet. But we can't. We have needed Greece as an ally and a heavy defense spender on our behalf for decades. Impoverished alongside us. You should know more than anyone that Greece was hit first and hardest; and we were next. Somewhere behind all this is the old 'divide and rule' policies, still at work. What a shame GR! has worn you down ...


When the decision to nuke Cyprus's economy was made by the Eurogroup, did you hear the word unanimous? It was a unanimous decision and the only state that raised an objection but still voted for it was Luxembourg. Stournaras throughout the entire meeting in the early hours if last Saturday was at times harsher than some of our other allies.

How was the decision to annex all our Banks in Greece by the Greek government made? ALL our banks! The solvent ones and the insolvent ones. How the hell did we end up getting fucked twice in Greece without a cent of compensation? We took a 75% haircut on Greek bonds when we were "supporting/speculating" the Greek economy and lost 4 Bn. We then took the entire cost of dissolving Laiki and losing everything while loans in Greece were being written off and their deposits where being safeguarded. Again not a cent of compensation. Where are our deposits that were dumped into the Greek economy? Where was the solidarity from Greece when they could have included our banks in their memorandum? What's another 4bn on 330bn?

when are we going to learn that Greece, Russia, Israel and any other foreign power we feel "loves" us at the moment is not going to come and rescue us.


I have no issue with my ideals of Hellenism and the people of Greece which is why I've stressed the word "state". Gr has nothing to do with my views, my kids future and my love of my country do.
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:11 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:We have needed Greece as an ally and a heavy defense spender on our behalf for decades.

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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:13 am

DT. wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
DT. wrote:Maintaining romantic ideals of Hellenism and the connection we feel with it is one thing. Expecting that we have anything to gain right now from a state (and I stress the word state) that has repeatedly turned its back to our interests in exchange for their own, as every state should do....is ridiculous.

There were at least 3 clear opportunities for Greece to take decisive and material actions that would have helped our cause but they didn't. The result right now is our 2nd largest bank being dismantled and the deposits of thousands of our compatriots and companies lost, while the deposits of the Greek depositors with Laiki have been safeguarded in full. This after years of Cypriot deposits being funnelled over to Greece to finance non-performing loans of Greek citizens and companies that eventually led to our insolvency. Where's the help now that their loans and deposits are being paid for by the Cypriot citizens?

I don't need friends like this, it's time for this country to stand on its own 2 feet with an economy that's viable and productive.


Yes, we should be standing on our two feet. But we can't. We have needed Greece as an ally and a heavy defense spender on our behalf for decades. Impoverished alongside us. You should know more than anyone that Greece was hit first and hardest; and we were next. Somewhere behind all this is the old 'divide and rule' policies, still at work. What a shame GR! has worn you down ...


When the decision to nuke Cyprus's economy was made by the Eurogroup, did you hear the word unanimous? It was a unanimous decision and the only state that raised an objection but still voted for it was Luxembourg. Stournaras throughout the entire meeting in the early hours if last Saturday was at times harsher than some of our other allies.

How was the decision to annex all our Banks in Greece by the Greek government made? ALL our banks! The solvent ones and the insolvent ones. How the hell did we end up getting fucked twice in Greece without a cent of compensation? We took a 75% haircut on Greek bonds when we were "supporting/speculating" the Greek economy and lost 4 Bn. We then took the entire cost of dissolving Laiki and losing everything while loans in Greece were being written off and their deposits where being safeguarded. Again not a cent of compensation. Where are our deposits that were dumped into the Greek economy? Where was the solidarity from Greece when they could have included our banks in their memorandum? What's another 4bn on 330bn?

when are we going to learn that Greece, Russia, Israel and any other foreign power we feel "loves" us at the moment is not going to come and rescue us.


I have no issue with my ideals of Hellenism and the people of Greece which is why I've stressed the word "state". Gr has nothing to do with my views, my kids future and my love of my country do.


Then you should think long-term and not go into overdrive over some current politics which are geared to destabilize Greece and Cyprus so that they can buy us both out (and our Gas-Oil) for knock-down prices.

Greece is impoverished (4 years of EU-battering) but it offered to safeguard Cypriot banks (under very favourable terms according to our folk) which, if history repeats itself (and it does), they will end up back in Cypriot hands again.

Stay strong, my dear. These things are sent to try us.
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Re: The Really Good CF Bagis the Clown Thread

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:15 am

Yeah ok… just don’t call us… we’ll call you Oracle! :lol:
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