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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby Demonax » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:20 am

Lordo wrote:our eoka-b man intends to apply for membership.


It's true he does. Anastasiades wants to end Cyprus’s non-alignment. Joining the PFP is a necessary step in Cyprus’ EU integration plan and more specifically, integration within the European Security and Defence Policy (ESDP).

And Cassoulides is in favour of a professional army not for a demilitarised Cyprus. This will be part of a package of proposals including a reduction in military expenditure that Anastasiades will put forward soon.

Interesting times ahead.
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby boomerang » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:35 am

Lordo wrote:who left the pen gate open again.

my little single cell brained elambic friend, which part of terkey will not let you in did you have difficulty understanding. shall i explain it to you.


turkey knows she can't do shit....she will try and get somethiong in return instead...oh i don't know, like for example she denied israel nato participation, but caved in, to get patriots because she got too scared...

this is how turkey objects....as long as i get something it's ok... :lol:

oh yeah remember NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen nomination?...turkey objected to him as well... :lol:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/5105782/Anders-Fogh-Rasmussen-to-be-new-secretary-general-of-Nato.html

what the big boys want the big boys get...ain't this right vips?... :lol:
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:47 am

Me Ed wrote:
Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...Lordo, don't you think that Cypriots, all Cypriots, have a deep mistrust of Turkey, simply because it constantly demonstrates that it depends on winning its desires from brute (or dark) force? don't you think that the enormous size of its Army, comparitvely, is also a justification for this fear? with NATO, Turkey does not leave Cyprus, but it will be far more difficult for Turkey to act in a political manner with its Army in Cyprus. it is a great compromise fraught with danger, for the Republic, as much as it is for its Turkish and Greek Citizens, (and NATO), when it comes to control, as you say. but, it is a step forward. why do you think this membership is a bad idea?

@vp, the Turkish Army can do this better?
....and please do not base your reply on the "peace" we have now.


rw i never said it was a bad idea. please read my post again. i am saying without peace in cyprus terkey will veto it and she has the right to do so.

but at another level lets go back in history. hat is the cyprus problem all about. was it not the case that usa wanted cyprus in nato and makarios was getting close to ussr. was that not the reason why the coup took place. to splt the country up into two. one under greece and one under terkey both in nato. so if you like the idea of the perpetrator of the worst crimes in cyprus be rewarded like they did with the resources go ahead and reward them.

in reality if there is peace tcs will not accept the complete removal the guranties so nato will be the next best thing for them but it is still wrong which ever way you look at it.

as to the gcs being against turkish guarantee, of course they are. if it was not for them in 74 there would not be one tc left.

If it was not for them, in 2050 there would not be one TC left.


...well said.

@vp, you seem very quiet.
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:53 am

No repulse just new generation TCs who have absolutely nothing in common with Cypriots form the south.
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby Demonax » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:44 pm

Me Ed wrote:If it was not for them, in 2050 there would not be one TC left.


Earlier than that, surely? Talat recently said that Turkish Cypriots need a solution desperately before they are effectively wiped out from the north. Of course, Eroglu and his acolyte VP, don't think this is a problem as they are Turkish arselickers.
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:22 pm

Demonax wrote:
Me Ed wrote:If it was not for them, in 2050 there would not be one TC left.


Earlier than that, surely? Talat recently said that Turkish Cypriots need a solution desperately before they are effectively wiped out from the north. Of course, Eroglu and his acolyte VP, don't think this is a problem as they are Turkish arselickers.


Hold on a minute it was ok when you wanted enosis which for us meant a death sentence, can you explain this hypocritical viewpoint to us?
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby boulio » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:11 pm

My god vp bring up enosis a 40 year old outdated movement to compare with what is happening in the north to the tc is pathetic
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:54 pm

boulio wrote:My god vp bring up enosis a 40 year old outdated movement to compare with what is happening in the north to the tc is pathetic


Not really when you consider that if 40 years ago enosis would have taken place you would be asking the same question in reverse so that makes you GCs the biggest hypocrites ever.
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby Me Ed » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:06 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Demonax wrote:
Me Ed wrote:If it was not for them, in 2050 there would not be one TC left.


Earlier than that, surely? Talat recently said that Turkish Cypriots need a solution desperately before they are effectively wiped out from the north. Of course, Eroglu and his acolyte VP, don't think this is a problem as they are Turkish arselickers.


Hold on a minute it was ok when you wanted enosis which for us meant a death sentence, can you explain this hypocritical viewpoint to us?


The concept of enosis didn't initially represent a death sentence to the TCs as they would have been an ethnic minority living in Greece, like the Turks that currently live in Greece - it was the subsequent manipulation of GCs and TCs by the British, for their own interests, that stoked up ethnic tensions between Cypriots.

The irony is that since the Turkish invasion and poplation transfer from mainland Turkey, any trace of the real TCs will be all but gone in Cyprus.
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Re: Cyprus to Join Partnership for Peace

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:11 pm

Me Ed wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Demonax wrote:
Me Ed wrote:If it was not for them, in 2050 there would not be one TC left.


Earlier than that, surely? Talat recently said that Turkish Cypriots need a solution desperately before they are effectively wiped out from the north. Of course, Eroglu and his acolyte VP, don't think this is a problem as they are Turkish arselickers.


Hold on a minute it was ok when you wanted enosis which for us meant a death sentence, can you explain this hypocritical viewpoint to us?


The concept of enosis didn't initially represent a death sentence to the TCs as they would have been an ethnic minority living in Greece, like the Turks that currently live in Greece - it was the subsequent manipulation of GCs and TCs by the British, for their own interests, that stoked up ethnic tensions between Cypriots.

The irony is that since the Turkish invasion and poplation transfer from mainland Turkey, any trace of the real TCs will be all but gone in Cyprus.


Why do you ignore the fact that we did not want to be part of Greece, it was against our wishes so therefore for was not better than a death sentence, then arent you being a hypocrite when you object to only 37% of the island becoming Turkey whereas you were greedy and wanted to force 100% of the to be gifted to Greece.

You had no problems with merging with greeks but now think that it wrong for the TCs to merge with Turks again this make you the biggest hypocrites around.
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