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[Jerry]

Where do you read that Greece is preparing to compromise on declaring its EEZ? I see only a Greek reference to 'mutual respect for international law and the protection of national sovereignty'. Everything is else is the usual Turkish bullshit.

It's called conjecture Demonax. Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey? Greece and its CIA masters caused the invasion, Greek bankrupcy has nearly broken Cyprus, it's time for Greece to pay up for what it has done to the island.

Okay, Jerry. Was a bit unclear why Erdogan was making so many references to Greece in resolving the Cyprus issue. Greece has been pretty hands-off in the talks. Not sure that Greece is in a position to offer the Turks anything though. Turks don't have much of a legal case and the Law of the Sea is part of EU law.

The law is completely on the side of Greece and Cyprus but we have to face the reality that the law alone will not rid the island the occupier, I wish it could. Greece owes Cyprus, it should offer to share some of its EEZ with Turkey in exchange for quitting Cyprus, it's payback time - there could even be some cash in it for poor Greece.

DrCyprus, who is going to kick Turkey's but, our new friends the Israelis ?

[B25]

Where do you read that Greece is preparing to compromise on declaring its EEZ? I see only a Greek reference to 'mutual respect for international law and the protection of national sovereignty'. Everything is else is the usual Turkish bullshit.

It's called conjecture Demonax. Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey? Greece and its CIA masters caused the invasion, Greek bankrupcy has nearly broken Cyprus, it's time for Greece to pay up for what it has done to the island.

Okay, Jerry. Was a bit unclear why Erdogan was making so many references to Greece in resolving the Cyprus issue. Greece has been pretty hands-off in the talks. Not sure that Greece is in a position to offer the Turks anything though. Turks don't have much of a legal case and the Law of the Sea is part of EU law.

The law is completely on the side of Greece and Cyprus but we have to face the reality that the law alone will not rid the island the occupier, I wish it could. Greece owes Cyprus, it should offer to share some of its EEZ with Turkey in exchange for quitting Cyprus, it's payback time - there could even be some cash in it for poor Greece.

DrCyprus, who is going to kick Turkey's but, our new friends the Israelis ?

Jerry, I cannot agree with this, crime should not be rewarded. Greece should stick to and keep it's own EEZ and Turkey needs to leave irrespective. It is high time the international community took some responsibility. Who the hell is turkey anyway. Give Turkeys recent comments to Israel and her attitude towards other neighbours, they might just get their cumuppance.

Once Greece does actually make the declaration of her EEZ, we will se a shift in the dynamics anyway and something is going to happen. Watch this space.

[Maximus]

Where do you read that Greece is preparing to compromise on declaring its EEZ? I see only a Greek reference to 'mutual respect for international law and the protection of national sovereignty'. Everything is else is the usual Turkish bullshit.

It's called conjecture Demonax. Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey? Greece and its CIA masters caused the invasion, Greek bankrupcy has nearly broken Cyprus, it's time for Greece to pay up for what it has done to the island.

Okay, Jerry. Was a bit unclear why Erdogan was making so many references to Greece in resolving the Cyprus issue. Greece has been pretty hands-off in the talks. Not sure that Greece is in a position to offer the Turks anything though. Turks don't have much of a legal case and the Law of the Sea is part of EU law.

The law is completely on the side of Greece and Cyprus but we have to face the reality that the law alone will not rid the island the occupier, I wish it could. Greece owes Cyprus, it should offer to share some of its EEZ with Turkey in exchange for quitting Cyprus, it's payback time - there could even be some cash in it for poor Greece.

DrCyprus, who is going to kick Turkey's but, our new friends the Israelis ?

I dont know what problems, today's or tomorrow's, will be resolved if Greece and Cyprus go by the law but Turkey disregards it.

Greece doesnt owe Cyprus, Turkey owes Cyprus.

[Pyrpolizer]

Where do you read that Greece is preparing to compromise on declaring its EEZ? I see only a Greek reference to 'mutual respect for international law and the protection of national sovereignty'. Everything is else is the usual Turkish bullshit.

It's called conjecture Demonax. Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey? Greece and its CIA masters caused the invasion, Greek bankrupcy has nearly broken Cyprus, it's time for Greece to pay up for what it has done to the island.

What exactly do you mean by "something" Jerry.
Imo Greece cannot give even a "tiny something" to Turkey without that having extreme negative consequences to her existence as a country.
Regardless, even if she could, I don't think Greece would give anything to simply help us get a "fair" solution to Cyprus.
And besides Greece has a record of selling Cyprus....like you said. I don't trust them one bit

[DrCyprus]

... Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey?

What do you propose Greece give to Turkey, to finally satiate its perpetual greed?

The more you give them, the more they will take. That's the rule of the game. In order for them to stop asking Greece has to stop giving and tell them to fuck off.

[B25]

... Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey?

What do you propose Greece give to Turkey, to finally satiate its perpetual greed?

The more you give them, the more they will take. That's the rule of the game. In order for them to stop asking Greece has to stop giving and tell them to fuck off.

Amen to that.

We are our own worst enemy, instead of telling Turkey where to go, we look for ways to appease the MF.

[Maximus]

... Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey?

What do you propose Greece give to Turkey, to finally satiate its perpetual greed?

The more you give them, the more they will take. That's the rule of the game. In order for them to stop asking Greece has to stop giving and tell them to fuck off.

Amen to that.

We are our own worst enemy, instead of telling Turkey where to go, we look for ways to appease the MF.

I do not think that appeasement of any sort is on the agenda because Greece is actually looking to extend her EEZ to the maximim distanced allowed under UN law of the sea. Only a few days prior to this meeting between Greek and Turkish officials, Greece made the relevant declarations to the UN of her intention to do this.

[boomerang]

Where do you read that Greece is preparing to compromise on declaring its EEZ? I see only a Greek reference to 'mutual respect for international law and the protection of national sovereignty'. Everything is else is the usual Turkish bullshit.

It's called conjecture Demonax. Is Greece prepared to give up something so that Cyprus can be genuinely free from Turkey? Greece and its CIA masters caused the invasion, Greek bankrupcy has nearly broken Cyprus, it's time for Greece to pay up for what it has done to the island.

What exactly do you mean by "something" Jerry.
Imo Greece cannot give even a "tiny something" to Turkey without that having extreme negative consequences to her existence as a country.
Regardless, even if she could, I don't think Greece would give anything to simply help us get a "fair" solution to Cyprus.
And besides Greece has a record of selling Cyprus....like you said. I don't trust them one bit

This has to pass
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus39920.html



I don't think the eu will be willing to accommodate turkey wet dreams, even if Greece wanted to...the problem for the Turks is they haven't gotten their head around what the eu is all about....nor what it stands for....

[Jerry]

We can shout and scream all we like at Turkey, the reality is it is too important to NATO and in particular the US for them to help us get rid of the invader. It will take a serious about turn for the US to dump Turkey as it did in Saddam, I can't see that ever happening so we need another way because the law won't do it. Even the EU doesn't really care about Cyprus, if it did it would have refused to start Turkey's accession process whilst it occupied the island.

Just suppose Greece and Cyprus held a referendum whereby Greece proposed to share some of its EEZ (and possibly some cash) with Turkey in exchange for abandoning its illegal occupation, how would a Cypriot vote and, more interestingly, how would a Greek vote? Show your true colours, how would you vote?

[B25]

We can shout and scream all we like at Turkey, the reality is it is too important to NATO and in particular the US for them to help us get rid of the invader. It will take a serious about turn for the US to dump Turkey as it did in Saddam, I can't see that ever happening so we need another way because the law won't do it. Even the EU doesn't really care about Cyprus, if it did it would have refused to start Turkey's accession process whilst it occupied the island.

Just suppose Greece and Cyprus held a referendum whereby Greece proposed to share some of its EEZ (and possibly some cash) with Turkey in exchange for abandoning its illegal occupation, how would a Cypriot vote and, more interestingly, how would a Greek vote? Show your true colours, how would you vote?

Jerry, I would not vote to give turkey shit. What the hell are you proposing that the rapist should get access rights to his victim and screw her again at will?? Because what you are suggesting, however noble you may think it is, is akin to this.

Personally, I would rather stay as we are until the right time comes than to capitulate to the turks.