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The Tomato's Attack 8:)

Postby RAFAELLA » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:21 pm

The self-styled government forced Ali Erel to present tomatoes produced in Turkey as being produced in the occupied area of Cyprus.

Under the banner front page title “Government falsification in the trade with the south”, Turkish Cypriot daily AFRIKA newspaper (01.11.05) reports that the self- styled government in the occupied territories of the Republic of Cyprus had asked the former chairman of the Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce, Mr Ali Erel, to issue documents presenting tomatoes produced in Turkey as being produced in the occupied area of Cyprus, but Mr Ali Erel refused to do this falsification.
The paper writes the following:
“Ali Erel, who has been removed from the post of the chairman at the general assembly of the Chamber of Commerce upon a conspiracy by the Republican Turkish Party (CTP), made shocking statements yesterday on Radio `Mayis´.

Hosted on the ‘Straight to the Truth’ program of Hasan Kahvecioglu, Ali Erel said that the TRNC government had demanded from him to give health certificate for tomatoes from Turkey as if they were local produce and in this way these tomatoes to be sold to south Cyprus.

Noting that he rejected this falsification suggested by the government, Ali Erel stressed that as from yesterday morning discussion on the validity of the stamp of the Chamber of Commerce has started in the European Union.

Stating that pressure came from the government on them in order to show the tomatoes of Turkey as if having been produced in northern Cyprus, Ali Erel said: ‘If you cannot say `no´ to these pressures and if you implement these demands, the Chamber of Commerce will have no prestige and credibility’. Stressing that in case such a practice is adopted, the EU will revoke the authority of the Chamber of Commerce, Ali Erel noted that they would be following the activities of the Chamber of Commerce from now on”. I/Ts

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument
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Postby Piratis » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:50 pm

Here is a part of the Cyprus Mail article regarding Erel:

Erel countered the accusations by saying, “They will politicise it now. The Chamber of Commerce will exist only to issue statements like those coming from the government”.
Erel believes the campaign to depose him stemmed not only from the wishes of the CTP but from the Turkish government, which wishes to see the Turkish Cypriots acting in unison with its policies on Cyprus.

“This pressure could be leading the government to depart from its original vision, i.e. that of solving the Cyprus problem and joining the EU,” Erel said, adding that the north’s repeated insistence that political and economic isolation of the community be lifted before further steps can be taken to resolve the island’s decades-old division is diverting attention from the need to solve the problem. Furthermore he says such rhetoric raises suspicion that leaders might be seeking recognition of the breakaway ‘Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus’.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 8&cat_id=1
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:38 am

Ali Erel paid the price for exercising his right to freedom of speech,something less and less tolerated in the TRNC.I can tell you that a lot of TCs are in a state of shock,that in such a short period of time Talat has become more Denktash than Denktash himself.Erel was also pushing for the acceptance of the money from the EU earmarked for the North,without insisting that it is linked to some other measures which would have made TRNC look more legitimate in the eyes of the world.

With CTP and the Peace and Democracy Movement now totally in Erdogan's pocket,things look worse for those of us hoping for a just and lasting solution to Cypro in a near future.Essentially there is no opposition now to Turkey's stand on Cyprus in the North,with the possible exeption of the Secondary Education Teachers Federation.My prediction is they will go after them next.Watch this space.
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Postby zan » Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:03 am

Birkibrisli

Can you tell me what is the extent of corruption in the south and in Greece that is better than the Turkish corruption. You seem to be much in favour of jumping out of the pan into the fire. Why.
Just asking?
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:10 am

Birkibrisli wrote:Ali Erel paid the price for exercising his right to freedom of speech,something less and less tolerated in the TRNC.I can tell you that a lot of TCs are in a state of shock,that in such a short period of time Talat has become more Denktash than Denktash himself.Erel was also pushing for the acceptance of the money from the EU earmarked for the North,without insisting that it is linked to some other measures which would have made TRNC look more legitimate in the eyes of the world.

With CTP and the Peace and Democracy Movement now totally in Erdogan's pocket,things look worse for those of us hoping for a just and lasting solution to Cypro in a near future.Essentially there is no opposition now to Turkey's stand on Cyprus in the North,with the possible exeption of the Secondary Education Teachers Federation.My prediction is they will go after them next.Watch this space.


I agree with you. I have some questions though.
Why the Tcs don't react to Talat's policies, especially after what happened with Mr Erel? Tcs have proofs now, why they don't get advantage of them since Talat in not acting for their interests?

I believe Mr Akinci has good proposals regarding solution?
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:18 am

people dont react rafaella
the examples of lilikas and matsakis in our site prove exactly that.
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Postby Alexios » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:49 pm

cypezokyli wrote:people dont react rafaella
the examples of lilikas and matsakis in our site prove exactly that.


Yes we do!!! We react to the UN,the EU,the USA, the UK etc!! We react to therats on fetta , halloumi , Yeroskipou delight??? etc..We react to Shri Lankans,Pontians, black cats, Russian women,etc...We react to anything that harms our pockets..We react to anythings that touches on our complexes...We react to anybody who doesnt know how to roast a souvla..
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:34 pm

zan wrote:Birkibrisli

Can you tell me what is the extent of corruption in the south and in Greece that is better than the Turkish corruption. You seem to be much in favour of jumping out of the pan into the fire. Why.
Just asking?


Hello,zan

I have no idea what the extend of corruption is in the South or in Greece.
But it couldn't possibly come anywhere near the situation in the North,about which I know quite a bit.
I am trying to jump from the pan into the sea,mate.At least that is what I think I am doing :)
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:50 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:Ali Erel paid the price for exercising his right to freedom of speech,something less and less tolerated in the TRNC.I can tell you that a lot of TCs are in a state of shock,that in such a short period of time Talat has become more Denktash than Denktash himself.Erel was also pushing for the acceptance of the money from the EU earmarked for the North,without insisting that it is linked to some other measures which would have made TRNC look more legitimate in the eyes of the world.

With CTP and the Peace and Democracy Movement now totally in Erdogan's pocket,things look worse for those of us hoping for a just and lasting solution to Cypro in a near future.Essentially there is no opposition now to Turkey's stand on Cyprus in the North,with the possible exeption of the Secondary Education Teachers Federation.My prediction is they will go after them next.Watch this space.


















I agree with you. I have some questions though.
Why the Tcs don't react to Talat's policies, especially after what happened with Mr Erel? Tcs have proofs now, why they don't get advantage of them since Talat in not acting for their interests?

I believe Mr Akinci has good proposals regarding solution?


RAFAELLA,
For 30 odd years the serious opposition in the North was the CTP(Talat's Party) and some of its associates like the Peace and Freedom Movement,and This Country Is Ours Movement. Now that Talat is in power those groups are essentially silenced.They risk being called "traitors to the cause" to the CTP cause that is.That is why bringing Talat to power was a masterstroke for Turkey and her allies.

Akinci is essentially the only member of the TRNC parliament with an opposing voice.He can only do so much on his own,in a very intimidating environment.If I am not wrong,he is trying to hedge his bet (proposing to return to the 1960 constitution but still hanging onto the TRNC).He lost a lot of credibility in my eyes,unless he has changed his position in the last week.I was too busy to follow his statements last week.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:52 pm

Alexios wrote:
cypezokyli wrote:people dont react rafaella
the examples of lilikas and matsakis in our site prove exactly that.


Yes we do!!! We react to the UN,the EU,the USA, the UK etc!! We react to therats on fetta , halloumi , Yeroskipou delight??? etc..We react to Shri Lankans,Pontians, black cats, Russian women,etc...We react to anything that harms our pockets..We react to anythings that touches on our complexes...We react to anybody who doesnt know how to roast a souvla..


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Keep up your sense of humour Alexios,we'll need in in the months to come.
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