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[Kikapu]

Looks like Anastasiades is not going to be the much awaited "Knight on a White Horse" to come and save Turkey, VP and Lordo to re-introduce the failed AP of 2004 as a starting point.

Is there anyone else left who still supports the much "Dead and Buried"[ AP of 2004?

Well, actually there are. Turkey, VP and Lordo!

“We want a solution that will reunite our island, without backwardness or concessions. I will never accept a definitive division of my nation and I will always strive for a solution that will guarantee the human rights of every Cypriot,” he said, adding that any solution initiative should be directly monitored by the European Union.

Anastasiades, who was the main South Cypriot political leader to support the UN-led imitative for the reunification of the island in 2004, said it was not beneficial anymore to talk about the so-called “Annan plan” and that a new process needed to be initiated.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/greek- ... sCatID=351

Does this car salesman know the EU were fully included in the AP process just as the UN reps were? and does he think that the UN will wipe the AP slate clean and start from scratch...very naive and very very stupid.

You can keep the title "Annan Plan" all you want. It is it's contents that needs to be changed to adhere to the EU principles now that Cyprus is in the EU since 2004. The fact that no one asks for the AP of 2004 to be returned (other than the usual suspects), even by Anastasiades himself, must tell you something.

As for your reasoning that the AP of 2004 must be kept just because money was spent on producing a faulty plan, then let the faulty plan producers eat the cost, which is what technocrats do best anyway, is to spend money on useless projects, and they did an excellent job in spending money on useless project like the AP. The UN has already passed it's resolution on the BBF for Cyprus. Now it's up to the EU to implement it with her own Principles. You cannot go back to before 2004 any longer. That ship has sailed long time ago and you know it and so does Turkey, which is what bothers you all and dreaming on the "what ifs" had the AP passed in 2004.

"Time Does Not Stand Still"!

[Viewpoint]

Kikapooo you still dont get it do you, I am not saying the AP will be brought back word for word but the foundations have been cast all that can be done now are adjustments that will secure a YES from both sides, the UN will never start from scratch if you continue to think that then you are more of a fool that I gave you credit for.

[Kikapu]

Kikapooo you still dont get it do you, I am not saying the AP will be brought back word for word but the foundations have been cast all that can be done now are adjustments that will secure a YES from both sides, the UN will never start from scratch if you continue to think that then you are more of a fool that I gave you credit for.

So, does that mean you will agree to a new "Annan Plan" of 2013 based on EU Principles? If so, it will take just 5 minutes to produce the updated version of the AP 2004!

[Viewpoint]

Kikapooo you still dont get it do you, I am not saying the AP will be brought back word for word but the foundations have been cast all that can be done now are adjustments that will secure a YES from both sides, the UN will never start from scratch if you continue to think that then you are more of a fool that I gave you credit for.

So, does that mean you will agree to a new "Annan Plan" of 2013 based on EU Principles? If so, it will take just 5 minutes to produce the updated version of the AP 2004!

Really depends on the contents and if this will secure a YES from both sides who have 50% weight in the decision making process.

[Kikapu]

Kikapooo you still dont get it do you, I am not saying the AP will be brought back word for word but the foundations have been cast all that can be done now are adjustments that will secure a YES from both sides, the UN will never start from scratch if you continue to think that then you are more of a fool that I gave you credit for.

So, does that mean you will agree to a new "Annan Plan" of 2013 based on EU Principles? If so, it will take just 5 minutes to produce the updated version of the AP 2004!

Really depends on the contents and if this will secure a YES from both sides who have 50% weight in the decision making process.

That's no answer. You know very well that you cannot circumvent the EU Principles like you were able to in 2004, so you and Turkey are really left with the only choice for a unification settlement, which are the EU Principles. Once you accept these principles, the rest is only a formality in getting a YES vote from both sides.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapooo you still dont get it do you, I am not saying the AP will be brought back word for word but the foundations have been cast all that can be done now are adjustments that will secure a YES from both sides, the UN will never start from scratch if you continue to think that then you are more of a fool that I gave you credit for.

So, does that mean you will agree to a new "Annan Plan" of 2013 based on EU Principles? If so, it will take just 5 minutes to produce the updated version of the AP 2004!

Really depends on the contents and if this will secure a YES from both sides who have 50% weight in the decision making process.

That's no answer. You know very well that you cannot circumvent the EU Principles like you were able to in 2004, so you and Turkey are really left with the only choice for a unification settlement, which are the EU Principles. Once you accept these principles, the rest is only a formality in getting a YES vote from both sides.

OK lets see how far these EU principles to heaven on earth gets us, by taking one subject at a time, eg New Generation TCs?

What will your EU straight jacket tell us to do here keeping in mind the number of generations that haveen born here and have inter married with TCs.

[boulio]

whats a new generation tc?

[Viewpoint]

whats a new generation tc?

The parents and offspring of Turkish origin that arrived after 1974.

[boulio]

im sure there will be parameters set for people born in cyprus or lived all there lives in cyprus to stay,the people that will leave are the miliarty,the workers and the people that came in the last 10 years.

[Jerry]

whats a new generation tc?

The parents and offspring of Turkish origin that arrived after 1974.

Turkey illegally bribed them with gifts of "free" GC property to emigrate in the first place. Turkey can now bribe them to go back to the mainland. I bet many so-called new generation would be pleased to move with the promise of a new BMW.