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[Maximus]

yes and that divide extends even further as it is getting cemented and bigger between turkey and the west too.

[boulio]

Why dont the GCs do this? I tell you why because they do not support a BBF with any sign of equality

I think g/c would comprimise on a TRUE federal model VP.THe bbf that you speak about should be labeled a BBC

[Viewpoint]

yes and that divide extends even further as it is getting cemented and bigger between turkey and the west too.

Your perspective is to wait for Turkeys demise so she is so weak she will have to surrender to all your demands, this is a very long shot, 53+ years of this mentality has not given you what you want, dont you think its time to sit down and workout a better approach strategy that would force Turkeys hand, your current politics plays right into her hands and she is not as stupid as you wish to think she is. Plus the world places blame on both sides are you aware of this?

[bill cobbett]

exactly bill im not saying to recommend a unitary state,but a true federal model.eroglu edrogan downer can go scratch.The ROC COULD HAVE GOTTEN EU advice as to up to were the aquis can be "comprimised"for the sake of a solution could have even done its own canvasing with the refuges and gathered information on truly who wants to return north is a federal state and who dosent who would rather exchage property for tc property in the south then came up with its own proposals on land and return of property.Concering the gurantees of Turkey Greece and GB I READ A great article in politis a few weeks ago about the possibilties that downer may be trying to push a joint EU/NATO STRUCTURE FOR cyprus.maybe could have gone down that avanue for security chapter.

Absolutely Boulio, an equitable zonal arrangement under a strong unifying federal central government within the UN guidelines and EU parameters will probably get a Yes vote in the Free Areas.

The alternative is to waste even more time talking to Turkey/Eroglu whose only interests are to pursue the present situation, the BBC, as the solution and to run down the clock.

[Viewpoint]

exactly bill im not saying to recommend a unitary state,but a true federal model.eroglu edrogan downer can go scratch.The ROC COULD HAVE GOTTEN EU advice as to up to were the aquis can be "comprimised"for the sake of a solution could have even done its own canvasing with the refuges and gathered information on truly who wants to return north is a federal state and who dosent who would rather exchage property for tc property in the south then came up with its own proposals on land and return of property.Concering the gurantees of Turkey Greece and GB I READ A great article in politis a few weeks ago about the possibilties that downer may be trying to push a joint EU/NATO STRUCTURE FOR cyprus.maybe could have gone down that avanue for security chapter.

Absolutely Boulio, an equitable zonal arrangement under a strong unifying federal central government within the UN guidelines and EU parameters will probably get a Yes vote in the Free Areas.

The alternative is to waste even more time talking to Turkey/Eroglu whose only interests are to pursue the present situation, the BBC, as the solution and to run down the clock.

Who are you gonna agree this with? a YES from the GCs only carries 50% weight.

[boulio]

50% vp is only in the senate

[bill cobbett]

exactly bill im not saying to recommend a unitary state,but a true federal model.eroglu edrogan downer can go scratch.The ROC COULD HAVE GOTTEN EU advice as to up to were the aquis can be "comprimised"for the sake of a solution could have even done its own canvasing with the refuges and gathered information on truly who wants to return north is a federal state and who dosent who would rather exchage property for tc property in the south then came up with its own proposals on land and return of property.Concering the gurantees of Turkey Greece and GB I READ A great article in politis a few weeks ago about the possibilties that downer may be trying to push a joint EU/NATO STRUCTURE FOR cyprus.maybe could have gone down that avanue for security chapter.

Absolutely Boulio, an equitable zonal arrangement under a strong unifying federal central government within the UN guidelines and EU parameters will probably get a Yes vote in the Free Areas.

The alternative is to waste even more time talking to Turkey/Eroglu whose only interests are to pursue the present situation, the BBC, as the solution and to run down the clock.

Who are you gonna agree this with? a YES from the GCs only carries 50% weight.

Are you once again rejecting a BBF...???

[Viewpoint]

exactly bill im not saying to recommend a unitary state,but a true federal model.eroglu edrogan downer can go scratch.The ROC COULD HAVE GOTTEN EU advice as to up to were the aquis can be "comprimised"for the sake of a solution could have even done its own canvasing with the refuges and gathered information on truly who wants to return north is a federal state and who dosent who would rather exchage property for tc property in the south then came up with its own proposals on land and return of property.Concering the gurantees of Turkey Greece and GB I READ A great article in politis a few weeks ago about the possibilties that downer may be trying to push a joint EU/NATO STRUCTURE FOR cyprus.maybe could have gone down that avanue for security chapter.

Absolutely Boulio, an equitable zonal arrangement under a strong unifying federal central government within the UN guidelines and EU parameters will probably get a Yes vote in the Free Areas.

The alternative is to waste even more time talking to Turkey/Eroglu whose only interests are to pursue the present situation, the BBC, as the solution and to run down the clock.

Who are you gonna agree this with? a YES from the GCs only carries 50% weight.

Are you once again rejecting a BBF...???

Is that right only reserved for GCs?

[boulio]

look vp the actual only agreements that we have is the 1977-78 high level agreements were makarios agreed to a federal model.with a zone for the t/c to administer.In my opionion what makarios envisioned with this agreement is a zone were the t/c would be the majority and run there day to day affairs.Basically a autonomous region coming under a federal model.something like what you have in spain or in serbia with vojdovina.

[boulio]

I also have been researching devolution as it is in Britain,Canada and Mexico to apply to a unified cyprus as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devolution