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[Viewpoint]

We are going around in circles please provide links to prove your claim otherwise we can all see who is talking shit. " Just because the AP did not state this it did not mean it was not going to happen." this line of yours has to be a classic, what a scare mongering plonker you are

The AP did not say it was not going to be a partition plan either, but even yourself has admitted finally that it was going to be a partition plan.

CASE CLOSED!

Partition plan according to you not me, and if we take a netural body the UN who clearly stated it was a BBF with political equality proves again how wrong you are. You only rubbish the AP because you feel it gave everything to the TCs and nothign to the GCs, which is total rubbish...if it had been accepted Maraş would today be in the GC state which is what the GCs want is it not.

Now you have been found out to be no more than a scaremongering shit stirrer who is like a child that did not get as many sweeties it wanted so therefore it stamps its feet and cries throwing all their sweeties on the floor.

[Kikapu]

We are going around in circles please provide links to prove your claim otherwise we can all see who is talking shit. " Just because the AP did not state this it did not mean it was not going to happen." this line of yours has to be a classic, what a scare mongering plonker you are

The AP did not say it was not going to be a partition plan either, but even yourself has admitted finally that it was going to be a partition plan.

CASE CLOSED!

Partition plan according to you not me, and if we take a netural body the UN who clearly stated it was a BBF with political equality proves again how wrong you are. You only rubbish the AP because you feel it gave everything to the TCs and nothign to the GCs, which is total rubbish...if it had been accepted Maraş would today be in the GC state which is what the GCs want is it not.

Now you have been found out to be no more than a scaremongering shit stirrer who is like a child that did not get as many sweeties it wanted so therefore it stamps its feet and cries throwing all their sweeties on the floor.

Yes, give Verosha back to the GCs and lose the whole country of Cyprus to Turkey.

What a deal and the GCs said OXI to such a deal.

Even Halil said that the AP gave him EVERYTHING he wanted and that he was going to be his own EFENDI.

One cannot get everything in a settlement without taking it from someone else.

Did you ever wonder why most TCs voted OXI to the AP? Those who had voted for the AP in the north were mostly Illegal Aliens and Partitionist such as yourself. I wonder why!

[Viewpoint]

Again you are changing the subject to deflect from the lies you are peddling about the NG TCs and that they will all remain in a settlement deal. Now tell us all what brilliant EU principles will be adopted when dealing with these people, dont forget this will of course include the same treatment of those granted citizenship in the south.

[Kikapu]

Again you are changing the subject to deflect from the lies you are peddling about the NG TCs and that they will all remain in a settlement deal. Now tell us all what brilliant EU principles will be adopted when dealing with these people, dont forget this will of course include the same treatment of those granted citizenship in the south.

I'm not deflecting anything. You are just refusing to answer my questions because you don't know how to or afraid to.

Let me ask you something. You always put Turkey's and the Illegal aliens welfare before TCs and GCs, as well as Cyprus, so why would you have voted for the AP to send ALL the settlers back to Turkey except for the 50,000 that was in the AP when even today you want almost all of them to stay?

[Viewpoint]

Again you are changing the subject to deflect from the lies you are peddling about the NG TCs and that they will all remain in a settlement deal. Now tell us all what brilliant EU principles will be adopted when dealing with these people, dont forget this will of course include the same treatment of those granted citizenship in the south.

I'm not deflecting anything. You are just refusing to answer my questions because you don't know how to or afraid to.

Let me ask you something. You always put Turkey's and the Illegal aliens welfare before TCs and GCs, as well as Cyprus, so why would you have voted for the AP to send ALL the settlers back to Turkey except for the 50,000 that was in the AP when even today you want almost all of them to stay?

Where did I actually say this? you are lieing once again. Please tell us all about the brilliant EU principles and how these people will be dealt with, I get the feeling you havent got a clue.

[Kikapu]

Again you are changing the subject to deflect from the lies you are peddling about the NG TCs and that they will all remain in a settlement deal. Now tell us all what brilliant EU principles will be adopted when dealing with these people, dont forget this will of course include the same treatment of those granted citizenship in the south.

I'm not deflecting anything. You are just refusing to answer my questions because you don't know how to or afraid to.

Let me ask you something. You always put Turkey's and the Illegal aliens welfare before TCs and GCs, as well as Cyprus, so why would you have voted for the AP to send ALL the settlers back to Turkey except for the 50,000 that was in the AP when even today you want almost all of them to stay?

Where did I actually say this? you are lieing once again. Please tell us all about the brilliant EU principles and how these people will be dealt with, I get the feeling you havent got a clue.

You always put the interest of Turkey and the Illegal settlers before TCs, GCs and Cyprus as a whole. It is a fact.

For one thing, Cyprus does not owe citizenship to any Illegal Aliens even if they happen to be one of the parents of any children born to TCs.

Secondly, all children born to Illegal Aliens are not entitled to citizenship of the RoC, even if they were born 39 years ago.

Thirdly, GC properties they now occupy will never belong to them and that they will eventually will have to turn them over, all awhile paying the going rate for rent in the area the property is.

Any numbers that will be allowed to stay or given RoC citizenship will be what the RoC decides and not what the EU will say.

[Viewpoint]

So now you are squirming again Kikapooo, we are not to adopt EU principles but the "RoC" will decide. In what shape or form? with the TCs or without?

Why do you now not want EU principles to be applied to all those that arrived on the island after 1974?

[Kikapu]

So now you are squirming again Kikapooo, we are not to adopt EU principles but the "RoC" will decide. In what shape or form? with the TCs or without?

Why do you now not want EU principles to be applied to all those that arrived on the island after 1974?

You are the one who is squirming by not answering my questions as usual.

Show me where in the EU Illegal Aliens and their children have been given citizenships no matter how long they have been in that country illegally and citizenships given based on EU Principle and not as ONLY as a policy of the country which gave the citizenships to the Illegal Aliens and their children.

[bill cobbett]

So now you are squirming again Kikapooo, we are not to adopt EU principles but the "RoC" will decide. In what shape or form? with the TCs or without?

Why do you now not want EU principles to be applied to all those that arrived on the island after 1974?

You are the one who is squirming by not answering my questions as usual.

Show me where in the EU Illegal Aliens and their children have been given citizenships no matter how long they have been in that country illegally and citizenships given based on EU Principle and not as ONLY as a policy of the country which gave the citizenships to the Illegal Aliens and their children.

Ahem .... it's all covered by Article 17 of the ECHR. The Abuse of Rights....

...Article 17 provides that no one may use the rights guaranteed by the Convention to seek the abolition or limitation of rights guaranteed in the Convention. This addresses instances where states seek to restrict a human right in the name of another human right, or where individuals rely on a human right to undermine other human rights...

In other words Rights can't be acquired if they conflict with the pre-existing Rights of others.

In other words, the number of Illegal Settlers and Equally Illegal CarpetSquatters who can stay based on ECHR Articles = ZERO.

[Lordo]

thats it case closed, where is tsillargazmenos to close the case when you need him. i nominate you to go and inform every single one of them that they have to leave. goon i dare you.