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The AP doesn't have to say "All new generation TCs will stay". The AP made many loopholes and provisions for them to stay, as well as many more to come later from Turkey and elsewhere! Just like the AP used the term "Federation", but in fact it was a Confederation in the way it was proposed!

Link? otherwise you are talking shit once again Kikapoooo.

The whole AP of 2004 is your link, all 9,000+ pages of it.

So the whole of the AP deals with how many new generation TCs will stay, you cannot expect people to believe this stupid claim, where specifically in the AP plan does it state that all NG TCs will stay, you know it doesnt thats why you cannnot provide links...obviously you are just talking shit out of your arse as usual.

[Kikapu]

The AP doesn't have to say "All new generation TCs will stay". The AP made many loopholes and provisions for them to stay, as well as many more to come later from Turkey and elsewhere! Just like the AP used the term "Federation", but in fact it was a Confederation in the way it was proposed!

Link? otherwise you are talking shit once again Kikapoooo.

The whole AP of 2004 is your link, all 9,000+ pages of it.

So the whole of the AP deals with how many new generation TCs will stay, you cannot expect people to believe this stupid claim, where specifically in the AP plan does it state that all NG TCs will stay, you know it doesnt thats why you cannnot provide links...obviously you are just talking shit out of your arse as usual.

Are you having comprehension of the written English language again. I said that the AP doesn't have to say " All the so called New Generation TCs will stay". The whole of the AP made provisions for all the Illegal Aliens and plus more from Turkey to come and stay, starting with the so called 50,000, which meant 200,000+ just as Halil provided in his post. The north state could and would have done all it wanted on the number of Turks living in the north state. Who was going to stop them?

The whole 9,000+ pages of the AP is your link, so go and read it.

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The AP doesn't have to say "All new generation TCs will stay". The AP made many loopholes and provisions for them to stay, as well as many more to come later from Turkey and elsewhere! Just like the AP used the term "Federation", but in fact it was a Confederation in the way it was proposed!

Link? otherwise you are talking shit once again Kikapoooo.

The whole AP of 2004 is your link, all 9,000+ pages of it.

So the whole of the AP deals with how many new generation TCs will stay, you cannot expect people to believe this stupid claim, where specifically in the AP plan does it state that all NG TCs will stay, you know it doesnt thats why you cannnot provide links...obviously you are just talking shit out of your arse as usual.

Are you having comprehension of the written English language again. I said that the AP doesn't have to say " All the so called New Generation TCs will stay". The whole of the AP made provisions for all the Illegal Aliens and plus more from Turkey to come and stay, starting with the so called 50,000, which meant 200,000+ just as Halil provided in his post. The north state could and would have done all it wanted on the number of Turks living in the north state. Who was going to stop them?

The whole 9,000+ pages of the AP is your link, so go and read it.

Link to those provisions? otherwise we will accept you are talking shit yet again, dont forget you are the one who has to prove your claims not me. ANOTHER CASE CLOSED

[Kikapu]

Link to those provisions? otherwise we will accept you are talking shit yet again, dont forget you are the one who has to prove your claims not me. ANOTHER CASE CLOSED

I and many others have proved it many times already that 50,000 Illegal Aliens did not mean 50,000 can stay. If that wasn't the case, why hasn't the Turkey accepted Christofias's 50,000 number version, which means mainly those who are related to the TCs one form or other could stay. Because Turkey does not want just 50,000 "Turks" in Cyprus, he want all the Turks in Cyprus.

Now the CASE is CLOSED.

[Viewpoint]

Link to those provisions? otherwise we will accept you are talking shit yet again, dont forget you are the one who has to prove your claims not me. ANOTHER CASE CLOSED

I and many others have proved it many times already that 50,000 Illegal Aliens did not mean 50,000 can stay. If that wasn't the case, why hasn't the Turkey accepted Christofias's 50,000 number version, which means mainly those who are related to the TCs one form or other could stay. Because Turkey does not want just 50,000 "Turks" in Cyprus, he want all the Turks in Cyprus.

Now the CASE is CLOSED.

You talk shit, and only the blind and ignorant follow your lead because they know no better, you could not provide one sentence to back up your false claims from the AP.

[Kikapu]

Link to those provisions? otherwise we will accept you are talking shit yet again, dont forget you are the one who has to prove your claims not me. ANOTHER CASE CLOSED

I and many others have proved it many times already that 50,000 Illegal Aliens did not mean 50,000 can stay. If that wasn't the case, why hasn't the Turkey accepted Christofias's 50,000 number version, which means mainly those who are related to the TCs one form or other could stay. Because Turkey does not want just 50,000 "Turks" in Cyprus, he want all the Turks in Cyprus.

Now the CASE is CLOSED.

You talk shit, and only the blind and ignorant follow your lead because they know no better, you could not provide one sentence to back up your false claims from the AP.

So you don't mind in that case, that according to you if the AP would ONLY allow 50,000 so called "new generation TCs" can stay, then that's what the GCs are offering, nothing more nothing less.

Is this what you agree with, because according to you, this is what the AP meant, right? OK, you got it, 50,000, which will mostly be children born to real TCs and Illegal Alien parents over the last 39 years?

If you do not agree to the above, then both you and the AP are/were talking shit.

[Viewpoint]

Link to those provisions? otherwise we will accept you are talking shit yet again, dont forget you are the one who has to prove your claims not me. ANOTHER CASE CLOSED

I and many others have proved it many times already that 50,000 Illegal Aliens did not mean 50,000 can stay. If that wasn't the case, why hasn't the Turkey accepted Christofias's 50,000 number version, which means mainly those who are related to the TCs one form or other could stay. Because Turkey does not want just 50,000 "Turks" in Cyprus, he want all the Turks in Cyprus.

Now the CASE is CLOSED.

You talk shit, and only the blind and ignorant follow your lead because they know no better, you could not provide one sentence to back up your false claims from the AP.

So you don't mind in that case, that according to you if the AP would ONLY allow 50,000 so called "new generation TCs" can stay, then that's what the GCs are offering, nothing more nothing less.

Is this what you agree with, because according to you, this is what the AP meant, right? OK, you got it, 50,000, which will mostly be children born to real TCs and Illegal Alien parents over the last 39 years?

If you do not agree to the above, then both you and the AP are/were talking shit.

Ther point is not whether I accept or not but the fact that have been caught out lieing about the AP, your claim that all the NG TCs will remain if the AP was accepted is a myth and ouright scare mongering ploy that was used on the GCs during the run up to the referendum and even today as you yourself proved.

[Kikapu]

Link to those provisions? otherwise we will accept you are talking shit yet again, dont forget you are the one who has to prove your claims not me. ANOTHER CASE CLOSED

I and many others have proved it many times already that 50,000 Illegal Aliens did not mean 50,000 can stay. If that wasn't the case, why hasn't the Turkey accepted Christofias's 50,000 number version, which means mainly those who are related to the TCs one form or other could stay. Because Turkey does not want just 50,000 "Turks" in Cyprus, he want all the Turks in Cyprus.

Now the CASE is CLOSED.

You talk shit, and only the blind and ignorant follow your lead because they know no better, you could not provide one sentence to back up your false claims from the AP.

So you don't mind in that case, that according to you if the AP would ONLY allow 50,000 so called "new generation TCs" can stay, then that's what the GCs are offering, nothing more nothing less.

Is this what you agree with, because according to you, this is what the AP meant, right? OK, you got it, 50,000, which will mostly be children born to real TCs and Illegal Alien parents over the last 39 years?

If you do not agree to the above, then both you and the AP are/were talking shit.

Ther point is not whether I accept or not but the fact that have been caught out lieing about the AP, your claim that all the NG TCs will remain if the AP was accepted is a myth and ouright scare mongering ploy that was used on the GCs during the run up to the referendum and even today as you yourself proved.

You don't have a point.

Accept what I said in my previous post, otherwise you are talking shit. The AP would have kept all the illegal aliens one way or the other as well as bring in more later. Just because the AP did not state this it did not mean it was not going to happen. Just the AP's version of the 50,000 meant easily 200,000 as the case was in Halil's post. If you do not accept the 50,000 the GCs are offering, then you must agree that the AP's version that it was going to allow more than 50,000 to stay. It was going to allow everyone to stay through different shenanigans. It's very simple.

[Viewpoint]

We are going around in circles please provide links to prove your claim otherwise we can all see who is talking shit. " Just because the AP did not state this it did not mean it was not going to happen." this line of yours has to be a classic, what a scare mongering plonker you are

[Kikapu]

We are going around in circles please provide links to prove your claim otherwise we can all see who is talking shit. " Just because the AP did not state this it did not mean it was not going to happen." this line of yours has to be a classic, what a scare mongering plonker you are

The AP did not say it was not going to be a partition plan either, but even yourself has admitted finally that it was going to be a partition plan.

CASE CLOSED!