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by **DrCyprus** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:36 pm

Shove off, Turkey is not even part of the BRIC.

by **Pyrpolizer** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:39 am

Viewpoint wrote:
How old are you? why pull out when you can milk the EU udders just by showing that you want to join. Dont you think that a country serious about joining would jump through the hoops just like you people did? This tells you clearly what is happening;

what's the red herring here then ??? ..
Its very simple , people actually think that Turkey wants to be in the EU ,..
and as long as it stays like that , the Turkish PM is happy , dont give in on cyprus and we wont let you join ...
Ermmm ok .. lets stay as we are ,,
it has a booming economic country , why would it want to ruin that , why would it want its people
to have EU passports and all wonder off ..
He is playing a blinder of a hand ..

As for the Gas think wait till it arrives you still have another how many years was it??? 4? 5? then we can talk about who is benefiting wars have been started for far less and Im not referring to Turkey.

So you think those who invested in Turkey are stupid, and they did so because they were made beleive that Turkey would join the EU?
In reality they invested there a)because currently Turkey has cheap labour b)Because goods can travel back to Europe at low cost. c)because of huge allowances to foreign investments in some zones they even give them free state land to build factories.
Companies can take all their profits OUT, they can pay corporate tax from as low as 4%, they can pay social insurance calculated on minimum wages, they can carry their machinery there at 0% tax import and 0% VAT, can take it out anytime they wish etc etc

All these is not really a healthy investment, and they cannot last for ever. All they actually deliver is jobs for the young population of Turkey (50% below 29 years old).

Cheap labour will sooner or later be gone. Investments will fly away as quickly as they arrived... Booming will not last for ever sooner or later there will be recession. Then what? Even that 10-15% EU tax exempt is enough to keep the Turkish economy Vs competition from far east given it's proximity and low cost of transport.
And there is also the matter of the Turkish Capitalists. Foreign investment just provide jobs for the masses, while t the same time Turkish business can not expend their activities in Europe. Neither the Turkish masses will ever have an outlet to Europe once recession occurs.

As things stand now the Turkey cannot export agricultural products to the EU. That would be a huge plus for her i mean exporting primary wealth... What they achieved so far is exporting textiles while importing all machinery etc. I really wonder how they compete with the Chinese on these...

If Turkey stays out of the EU or does not even get a special relation, she will end up like Cyprus. 6 years ago we were booming, now we are broke.... :wink:

by **Viewpoint** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:58 am

Jobs and investment stimulate the economy in more ways than you have chosen not to mention above, it is desired by all countries, you should know this, these companies that invest in turkey also take into account her EU perspective and aspirations which make the climate more attractive than investing in countries where there is still a gunho untertone which makes it very dangerous and risky to invest their billions.

Your doom and gloom picture painting for Turkey has been going on for many years, dont you get tired? you are the same people who claimed that your own and Greeces economy were fine.

A bit more news that will piss you off has you hate Turkey so much and will post absolutely anything negative about her;

Turkey ‘will clear $1.3bn IMF debt by April’
Ankara, September 30, 2012

Turkey will clear its remaining $1.3 billion of debt to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by next April, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan told a ruling party congress on Sunday.

In the past the Turkish government relied on IMF loans to meet financial shortfalls, but it has managed to do without the aid since 2008. It has been gradually reducing its debts to the fund, which stood at $1.9 billion in late May.

"We took over $23.5 billion of debt. As of now we have $1.3 billion of debt and we will cut it to zero in April. We are holding technical discussions now," Erdogan told party members at the congress.

Turkey's last standby agreement with the fund was in 2005 and expired in May 2008. – Reuters

by **Pyrpolizer** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:56 pm

So, is this booming in the Turkish economy due to the fact that Turkey tricked everybody that she wants to become EU member whereas in reality she doesn't want to?
Or is it due to other reasons most of which have to do with a)that she already got customs Union with the EU b) motives given to investors by the Turkish state, and finally the most important c)cheap Turkish labour

by **Viewpoint** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:12 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:So, is this booming in the Turkish economy due to the fact that Turkey tricked everybody that she wants to become EU member whereas in reality she doesn't want to?
Or is it due to other reasons most of which have to do with a)that she already got customs Union with the EU b) motives given to investors by the Turkish state, and finally the most important c)cheap Turkish labour

Man you cannot be this thick, second thoughts if you need me to repeat myself once again you definitely are.

by **Pyrpolizer** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:29 am

Why are you afraid to answer 2 simple questions

by **Viewpoint** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:31 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Why are you afraid to answer 2 simple questions

Man you are stupid.

by **Pyrpolizer** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:34 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Why are you afraid to answer 2 simple questions

Man you are stupid.

Calling me stupid because you can't answer 2 simple questions? I think you are a chicken. :wink:

by **Viewpoint** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:59 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Why are you afraid to answer 2 simple questions

Man you are stupid.

Calling me stupid because you can't answer 2 simple questions? I think you are a chicken.

You sound like you are a 10yo in the play school yard, throwing around threats and stamping your feet to get your way. I have answered your questions time and time again in the past and will not pay you the privilidge of repeating myself once again....you obviously do not pay attention or more likely only register what you want to hear, which is another known GC trait.

by **Maximus** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Why are you afraid to answer 2 simple questions

Man you are stupid.

Calling me stupid because you can't answer 2 simple questions? I think you are a chicken.

You sound like you are a 10yo in the play school yard, throwing around threats and stamping your feet to get your way.
Is Mr Erdogan a pupil.

I have answered your questions time and time again in the past and will not pay you the privilidge of repeating myself once again....you obviously do not pay attention or more likely only register what you want to hear, which is another known GC trait.
you could have answered the two simple questions in less time and effort than it has taken you to get across nothing on your 3 last posts. Go on VP, simple yes or no answers to each question on this cliffhanger, please!