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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:22 pm

Don't forget our "rendevous' with Sadik and Bananiot (and please can we invite Kifeas as well?) to drink ourselves silly at Paphos and Kyrenia.
Cheers mate


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u didnt need to ask about inviting kifeas.
dont worry. ouzo has strong unifying side effects :)
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Postby zan » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:38 pm

Rafaella

Anyway, first learn how to write my name and then believe whatever you want.



Didn't know I needed your permission, my apologies.

Another male with the anatolian syndrom.
Why do you talk to me like that? I'm not your mother, your sister or your wife who accept and are used to this kind of mongolian attidute and behavior.


You make it sound as if I should be ashamed of my roots. Not me sweetheart. Besides that, I would not speak to my relatives like that unless they showed racist tendencies.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:50 pm

Back to Matsakis, an article from the turkish press - Zaman.

Reactions Mount Against Greek Deputy for Snatching Turkish Flag
By Cihan News Agency, Anadolu News Agency (aa)
Published: Thursday, November 03, 2005
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The European Parliamentary member Cypriot Greek Marios Matsakis’ snatching a Turkish flag from the buffer zone caused widespread reactions on both sides of the island.

Vice President of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Serdar Denktas termed the Greek deputies actions as a “crazy move” and said he will continue to protest the incidents at the United Nations and the European Union.

Turkish Cyprus President Mehmet Ali Talat responding to questions from reporters at Ataturk International Airport in Istanbul upon his return from the US, said this action is tantamount to stealing and is a shame, and this type of action cannot be excused in any place around the world. “This is not the first time for Mr. Matsakis,” Talat added.

Denktas told that the flag had been returned to where it belongs; a broader control mechanism has been upset and the removal of the flag constitutes a crime in the Turkish Republic in Northern Cypus. Matsakis will most certainly be punished Denktas stressed. The Greek Cypriots will also punish the deputy in the next election for letting them down and he will be excluded from the European Parliament. Turkish Cypriot Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer reminded that the duty of Mastakis as a deputy is to serve for peace, not to provoke.

Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopulous said it is a “theatre” to take the Turkish flag down. Such theatrical actions do not serve any benefit and Matsakis does not present anyone with his behavior.

Ankara on the other hand fiercely condemned the act of Matsakis violating the buffer zone, stepping onto Turkish Cypriot soil and snatching the Turkish flag. Foreign Ministry Spokesman Namik Tan said Matsakis represents only himself.


What was the turkish flag doing in a buffer zone?
Mr Tan is for laughs :lol:
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Postby 2fan » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:56 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:Back to Matsakis, an article from the turkish press - Zaman.

Reactions Mount Against Greek Deputy for Snatching Turkish Flag
By Cihan News Agency, Anadolu News Agency (aa)
Published: Thursday, November 03, 2005
zaman.com

The European Parliamentary member Cypriot Greek Marios Matsakis’ snatching a Turkish flag from the buffer zone caused widespread reactions on both sides of the island.

Vice President of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Serdar Denktas termed the Greek deputies actions as a “crazy move” and said he will continue to protest the incidents at the United Nations and the European Union.

Turkish Cyprus President Mehmet Ali Talat responding to questions from reporters at Ataturk International Airport in Istanbul upon his return from the US, said this action is tantamount to stealing and is a shame, and this type of action cannot be excused in any place around the world. “This is not the first time for Mr. Matsakis,” Talat added.

Denktas told that the flag had been returned to where it belongs; a broader control mechanism has been upset and the removal of the flag constitutes a crime in the Turkish Republic in Northern Cypus. Matsakis will most certainly be punished Denktas stressed. The Greek Cypriots will also punish the deputy in the next election for letting them down and he will be excluded from the European Parliament. Turkish Cypriot Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer reminded that the duty of Mastakis as a deputy is to serve for peace, not to provoke.

Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopulous said it is a “theatre” to take the Turkish flag down. Such theatrical actions do not serve any benefit and Matsakis does not present anyone with his behavior.

Ankara on the other hand fiercely condemned the act of Matsakis violating the buffer zone, stepping onto Turkish Cypriot soil and snatching the Turkish flag. Foreign Ministry Spokesman Namik Tan said Matsakis represents only himself.


What was the turkish flag doing in a buffer zone?
Mr Tan is for laughs :lol:


Just like you. :lol:
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Postby zan » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:08 pm

Matsakis: ‘I refuse to change who I am’
By John Leonidou

DIKO MEP Marios Matsakis yesterday hit back at the critics of his escapade on Monday, in which he walked two kilometres into the buffer zone to tear down the Turkish flag from a contested observation post near Louroujina.

Despite considerable popular support, Matsakis’ stunt was shunned by politicians and especially members of his own party. The outspoken MEP has also been accused of seeking to divert attention from the problems he is currently facing with the law.

Matsakis has had his parliamentary immunity lifted to allow police to investigate allegations that he bought smuggled antiquities from the north. He is also accused of attempting to blackmail a drugs squad officer. He denies both allegations.

Police have already seized hundreds of items from his home, mostly traditional wooden chests and giant clay urns.

I am the exact same person I have always been and DIKO have had three opportunities to know if they wanted a person like me to represent their party.:oops: :oops:

They decided that they did want a person like me to represent them, but now all of a sudden they are expecting me to change and I am sorry to say that I refuse to change”, said Matsakis.

But DIKO Vice Chairman Nicos Pittokopitis told state radio yesterday that Matsakis could have hammered the last nail into his coffin with his latest stunt.

“As DIKO, we do not agree with the action of Mr Matsakis and as a party we are not affiliated to his actions. DIKO members are obliged to act and talk in a why which represents the party and not themselves. So we are obviously very worried that the actions of Mr Matsakis will have repercussions on other people that have nothing to do with what he did.

“In my personal opinion, the possibility of excluding him from the party has not been ruled out. In fact, it could well be on the agenda in tonight’s meeting at DIKO.”
But Matsakis immediately hit back questioning why DIKO had taken him on in the first place if they didn’t like what he did.

“If DIKO really did make a mistake in taking me on, something which I think is highly unlikely, then they should come out and say that they made a mistake accepting me into their party. But it makes me wonder how DIKO could continuously make the same mistake of electing the wrong person in 1996, 2001 and 2004. How is that possible?”
Matsakis added he had the backing of the people for his action and hit back at the critics, repeating: “had I been killed, I would have been hailed as a hero”.

“Judging from the countless phone calls, emails and text messages that I am receiving from people giving me their support, I get the impression that what I did was not condemned by the large majority of the Cypriot public. I went there to see what was going on so I could report it. While I was there I observed the Turkish flag of occupation on top of a guard post and my heart spoke out to me and told me to take that flag down.
“If the Turks had shot and killed me yesterday, then things would be entirely different today. All the politicians speaking out against me today would have instead been honouring me, showering me with wreaths and flags and turning up in droves at my funeral had I been killed.”

DISY spokesman Tassos Mitsopoulos gave rare backing to DIKO over Matsakis, saying such actions were dangerous for Cyprus and give the wrong image outside.

“The continuous threat and actions of the Turkish occupation forces must be met with a framework of determined action from the state. We need to retaliate as a state and not retaliate in spasmodic, theatrical and egotistical ways, which will do nothing except promote personal gain for an individual or grab the attention of the public.”

The maverick MEO also made front page news in the north, with several Turkish Cypriot papers claiming Matsakis had mental problems. Kibris wrote: “Matsakis has gone mad – The Greek Cypriot MEP did it to divert attention away from the problems that he is having with charges of smuggling”, while Kibrisli headlined “Matsakis has totally lost it”.

Volkan was more hostile, stating: “If he has the courage, let him take a flag from a guard post manned with soldiers”, while Afrika titled, “He lowered the flag and ran”.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:40 pm

the matsakis firework is about to sink and the ones who are a little bit clever are leaving the boat. :) even pittokopitis realised that.
matsakis didnt totally loose it. he never had anything to loose :)
as a satiric columnist wrote a couple of days ago: please dont shoot him down the next time he attempts sth like that, bc we will be forced to celebrate the memory of the hero every year.
he stole ancient antiquities he blackmailed a policeman and still thinks he can trick the people :) :) :)

let aside that HE called the cameras, and there was NO soldier around.
karagioz all the way
does it say sth about our representatives? and even worse in europe...
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Postby Main_Source » Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:16 am

I cant believe people are condemning Matsakis...especially some Greek Cypriots....you should be ashamed....you are true SELL OUTS.

I also find the Turkish Cypriots hilarious for condoning Matsakis but not even MENTIONING the fact that the Turkish Army showed off their arrognant expansionist tendencies...as well as making it blatent that Talat's apparent role of leader of the Turkish Cypriots goes so far and he is a puppet of the Turkish Army...unless he told the Turkish army to try take more land.

Another hilarious thing is that Talat said Matasakis taking down the illegally placed Turkish flag in the buffer zone was stealing lol...when the Turkish army have been stealing for the last 31 years. Its a joke...how can any Turkish Cypriots here...who think Mataskis taking down the Turkish flag is wrong but its ok for the Turkish Army to go forth into the buffer zone....keep a straight face. You guys are a fucking joke lo.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:17 am

cypezokyli wrote:
Don't forget our "rendevous' with Sadik and Bananiot (and please can we invite Kifeas as well?) to drink ourselves silly at Paphos and Kyrenia.
Cheers mate


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u didnt need to ask about inviting kifeas.
dont worry. ouzo has strong unifying side effects :)


Yeia mas,Cypezokyli,
Kifeas is hereby invited,though he probably doesn't know it yet.
I'll drink to ouzo's unifying side effects.
I might change my signature to:Next year,leggless in divided Cyprus!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:39 am

zan wrote:Birkiblisli

Merhaba Zan,
My grandparents spoke better Cypriot Greek than Turkish,and lived in harmony with their compatriots for decades.They were better Turkish Cypriots than you and I will ever be.But because of the ultra nationalistic lunacy that gripped Cyprus from early 50s,they had to leave their beautiful village in Paphos and died as heartbroken penniless refugees in the NOrth.
I have made it my mission to fight this curse that is called nationalism wherever I find it.BTW,how old do you think I am?You might be in for a surprise.


My grandmother never learnt to speak Turkish at all. She died penniless in a house made of mud in a Greek village. If my family had not been forced out of our own country years ago by EOKA terrorists, I might have grown up in Cyprus and looked after her. It breaks my heart, but time moves on.

Why is it that you choose to blame the Turkish Cypriots, who (the criminal element that is) have to take their share of the blame, and not the EOKA terrorists like Makarios and Grivas and Samson.


Zan,
I am not blaming the TCs for the Cyprus problem,and I am not blaming the GCs either.You,me,our families 10s of thousands of TCs and GCs have suffered as a result of political games played by the big boys.
We Cypriots are the victims in this conflict,and we should not turn against each other.We should show some empathy towards each other and fight together to end the injustices and inhumanity forced upon us.To do that we have to identify the enemies of our people,the people of Cyprus.
Its niether here nor there now to blame the EOKA or TMT or Makarios or Dr Kucuk or Denktash even.That is all in the past.We have to move on as you say.What is the one thing that will unite our homeland?Developing a unique Cypriot identity,playing down our ethnic origins.If we can't do that we are lost.Cyprus will be divided forever.And it won't be you or I or the thousands of GC and TC refugees who will benefit.It will be the big boys globally and those thieves and pimps and assorted outlaws in the North locally.That is why I am so angry at the state of the TRNC.Our country,our homeland is being raped,and you talk to me about "the noble blood that flows in our veins".The blood that flows in the TC viens are exactly the same blood that flows in the GC veins.What is more our gene pool in Cyprus is unique and nothing like that of the mainland Turks and Greeks.If you are a smoker,put that in your pipe and smoke it,lol. :( :evil:
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:05 am

Fireworks dont sink!
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