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[Main_Source]

Main_Source,

you are not a nationalist at all, you are a SHAUVINIST.

Chauvinist is spelt with a CH and I doubt you understand what it means.

Not only turks, slavs and albanians are apparently doing the same.

Yes, its amazing what the Ottoman mindset does to people centuries down the line. As for the Skopjans, even their government officials admit they had nothing to do with the ancient Macedonians.

Your nationalistic ranting, self-victimization and deliberate distorions of history have no ending. Do you know what the definition of a slave is? Ask your jamaican friend, what a slave is. How did turks enslave you exactly? Could you please elucidate?
Slaves are not persons, they are simply property, and they cannot own property. Did turks own greeks during the ottoman period? Were greeks not allowed to own property?

Nationalistic? I think not...go read other recent posts of mine on other threads. You on the other hand...you believe the Turks should still control parts of the Aegean and balkans...tell me who is the nationalist.

Self victimization? Only a Turk could not distinguish the what an aggressor is and what a victim is. You are the one trying to portray aggresive Turkish history in an insanely positive light. Dont just ask the Greek Cypriots...go ask the Arabs, Armenians, Kurds, Assyrians, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Delibarate distortion of the truth? Thats right...the rest of the middle east is wrong but the poor innocent Turks are right.

as for our slavery...well the Ottomans virtually owned us...they told us what to do or die by the sword. They imposed huge taxes on us and forced us to live in poverty. We had to do anything they said because the Ottoman Turks lived by the sword so much. They even stole our children to become soldiers or hores.

Turks didn't steal these lands, they just settled on them.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah right! and I suppose the inhabitants who lived there before just offered their land to the Turks and you excepted. Is that something else Abdullah Gul told you after he tried to convince Turkey that there were no Greeks in Asia Minor...only ancient Christian Turks.

These are figments of your feeble little mind. I look on Ottoman history as the past. Great warriors and statesmen. I have no need to return to the past. We as Turks tought you Greeks many lessons that you simply can't get over my little stupid friend. I do feel badly for those innocent Greeks that were dispaced and sent back to Greece. They were undoubtedly assets for the Turks. We made mistakes in those years that I am not proud of. But as far as little slimy little worms that offend the memory of my great grandfather in using his name and the term of asshole in the same phrase I have no tollerance. You are a fucked up little bastard that gets a rush from insulting people and I have no use for you. Your parents have failed miserably in your up-bringing. They have taught you no respect and what it means to be a part of a society. I feel sorry for you and your parents.

you need sex.

[bg_turk]

The more I speak to you, the more I realize tha you are completely incapable of leading any constructive discussion. Do you at all read what others write?
You are so stuck and narrowminded that it is pointless to argue with you. But ask yourself this question - why are you in this forum?
Are you here to correct our english? Are you hree to porvkoe us? Are yuo here to cmomnet on otehr's sexual life?
Dont you rlaeize how chaep you get?

Have you learnt anything at all from communicating with turks?

Don't bthoer to cmoe up with a "clever" awnser, it is unceesnsary and a wsate of forum kBytes.

[BirKibrisli]

The more I speak to you, the more I realize tha you are completely incapable of leading any constructive discussion. Do you at all read what others write?
You are so stuck and narrowminded that it is pointless to argue with you. But ask yourself this question - why are you in this forum?
Are you here to correct our english? Are you hree to porvkoe us? Are yuo here to cmomnet on otehr's sexual life?
Dont you rlaeize how chaep you get?

Have you learnt anything at all from communicating with turks?

Don't bthoer to cmoe up with a "clever" awnser, it is unceesnsary and a wsate of forum kBytes.

Hello,bg_turk,
Are you becoming dyslectic,or are you giving the finger to Source for correcting your spelling all the time?
Really,you guys,if you put as much effort in pointing out the similarities that exist in our cultures and histories,we could solve the Cyprus problem in no time!
Source,really!If you can see nothing good in anybody else's culture and history,keep on calling people names,you will get the same back.But is it really helping anything?Is all this helping the GCs and TCs better understand and trust each other?That is after all the aim of this forum,no?
Tufan,I always wondered why you had such interest in our problems in Cyprus.Now I know.You are a child of refugees after all.If we look at the big picture (the last 5000 years) we are all sons and daughters of refugees,warriors,new settlers,travelling merchants,mercinaries,gypsies,you name it. A pity we concentrate so much on our differences,isn't it?
Zan,thank you for the links you provided especially for me.I found the history of Creten plumbing fascinating

[bg_turk]

Buenas noches birkibrisli,

Do you really believe the people like the above mentioned entity will want to share any similarity with you? The above mentioned entity's identity is built to deliberately contrast that of the turks, and you are talking about discussing similarities? For the above mentioned entity being similar to turks is offensive Birkibrisli, the above mentioned entity will only want to discuss and emphasize his differences with you.

[zan]

Really,you guys,if you put as much effort in pointing out the similarities that exist in our cultures and histories,we could solve the Cyprus problem in no time!
Source,really!If you can see nothing good in anybody else's culture and history,keep on calling people names,you will get the same back.But is it really helping anything?Is all this helping the GCs and TCs better understand and trust each other?That is after all the aim of this forum,no?

Birkibrisli

That’s exactly what I was doing. Greeks expanded their so-called civilisation/Empire by war and so did the Osmanlis. It seems that both of us ransacked where ever we could and that is history. We are the same. It is source that will not read anything that is written or proved by others. My point was also that “ to the victor go the spoils”. Whether we intervened or invaded in Cyprus does not matter. It is not Greek by birthright it is Turkish Cypriot because that is who is settling on it at the moment. The TRNC was won in a war that was started by EOKA terrorists. It was their bullets that crashed into buildings and flesh and bone that caused an uprising. It was their dream of repeating the history of Crete and if not killing putting the TCs on boats and sending them back to Turkey like they still confess they want to do to the refugees and secretly want to do to us. As far as I’m concerned they are lucky that the Turks stopped when they did. 37% is what we’ve got and that is what we should keep. 1965 I waved goodbye to my Island from the bow of a ship, I do not plan on doing it again.

Shame they wiped out the Minoans, perhaps they could have told you a story or two.

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[zan]

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Sounds like youv'e got a bit of phlem there mate.

If your the one in the middle of that photo then those must be your lucky parents. I must say your mother is looking particularly lovely this morning.

[Kifeas]

My point was also that “ to the victor go the spoils”. Whether we intervened or invaded in Cyprus does not matter. It is not Greek by birthright it is Turkish Cypriot because that is who is settling on it at the moment. The TRNC was won in a war that was started by EOKA terrorists. It was their bullets that crashed into buildings and flesh and bone that caused an uprising. It was their dream of repeating the history of Crete and if not killing putting the TCs on boats and sending them back to Turkey like they still confess they want to do to the refugees and secretly want to do to us. As far as I’m concerned they are lucky that the Turks stopped when they did. 37% is what we’ve got and that is what we should keep. 1965 I waved goodbye to my Island from the bow of a ship, I do not plan on doing it again.

Ideally I shouldn't even bother talking to such an idiot and a bigot like you and I am lucky you aren't anywhere close to me because most likely I would have ended up in jail, but let me say this for the first and that last time I will address you. I am glad and thank the god that the majority of the TCs do not share your ideas and therefore there is still some hope in this country.

[Eric dayi]

I am glad and thank the god that the majority of the TCs do not share your ideas

Oh yes, words of a "wise man" who believes in what he says.

[zan]

Kifeas

Aren't you even going to say what you are unhappy about