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New invasion by Turkey!

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Postby Alexios » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:06 pm

Nicko wrote:1985, Hussein Nakimilar was arrested in Bulgaria for illiegal arms trading. He apparently was shipping High powered automatic rifles to a notorious gang in Athens. Police, customs and port authorities seized 60 tonnes of illigal weapons at the port of pireas. Along with the guilty man were Thomas cook holiday makers who purchased some of the weapons to stage an attack on the town hall in Athens. The mare was overwhelmed with the super greek intelligence undercover operation and awarded the cheif of police a medal.
Hussein was of Turkish origin and confessed to the police that he was trying to overthrow the President of Greece. In 1998 Greek police formed an elite team called St. George Squad and was very similar to Scotland Yard's Flying Squad. The st.G.sQUAD drove around and still do, in 1975 Ford Cortinas, Black with a white stripe down the side. They are usually out at night near the cafes. They later changed their name to S.G.S Its a kind of secret police thing. The weapons dissapeared and were never found, some beleived that Mitsotakis hidd them in his basement to stage a coup against george papandreou.


You have it all wrong again..!!!The weapons thing was all a big cover up to hide the fact that the real shipment was turkish cucumbers intended for illegal re-export to Cyprus.Apparently,the then President,S.Kyprianou,masterminded the whole operation, his final objection to flood the Cyprus market with the cucumbers so frighten off any talk existed at the time for re unification.The whole operation would be supported by the government media under headings such as "These are intended for your backsides" etc etc...However, Papadopoullos who at the time was in conflict with old Spyros,somehow found out about the plot and informed the Bulgarian and greek police..He took it as a ploy from Kyprianou to redicule him for his nose because word spresd to him that the cucumbers were oversized...so the whole plot fell away..:)))
You are right about Mitsotakis basement however, the cucumbers ended up there because Mitsotakis wife wanted to make cretan pickles...
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:07 pm

2fan wrote:
ELLAS H TEFRA! wrote:
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zan wrote:ELLAS H TEFRA!


See post above. Are you in that picture? is that why you keep posting it?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

No Zan, Its his stupid attempt at poking fun at Turkish aspirations to join the EU. That's all. He thinks that only GCs suffered and he simply isn't worth replying to. He thinks he's a tough guy who will run at the first sight of trouble. Don't waste your time.

Tough guy...run...poking fun...waste your time...

You should read the next Harry Potter book..its fictional too!
:D


I don't need to read anymore fiction. There is alot of it here. Especially your posts. 8)


My posts are all judgemental..hence never "fictional"!
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Postby zan » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:05 pm

A Bulgarian,a jamaican and a Cypriot are sitting outside a pig stye.
They decide to have a competition. The one who stays longest in the pigstye will be the winner,and the others will shout him a meal at the best restaurant in town.
The Bulgarian goes in,they time him. 1 minute ...2 minutes...2 and half minutes...bang opens the barndoors and the Bulgarian comes out.
The Jamaican goes in next.1 minute...2 minutes...3 minutes... bang open the barngates and the Jamaican comes out.
The Cypriot goes in next.1 minute...2 minutes...3 minutes...4 minutes...
The barngates slowly open and a white Jamaican comes out with a spliff hanging out of his mouth shouting " run little piggies, run I have freed you from oppression.
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:21 pm

I bet that took you a good half an hour to think of to didnt it lol.

Great joke...about as funny as Denktash proposing to be muslim and having a pigs heart in him lol.
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Postby zan » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:37 pm

I’m sorry mate but I could not resist it. Even you must admit that that speech you gave about your links with the black slaves was the most tenuous that any one has posted to date.
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:01 pm

The links I made are there for all to see and are comparative to Jamaican history. Maybe its a reality shock that the Ottomans are compared to other oppresive regimes.

The strongest link I can see is how we both had to strive to find nationlistic awareness in order to fight off our opressors. Whas wrong...doesnt listening to Bob Marley sound the same to you anymore.
Shit, if Bob Marley was living in Turkey, he'd be opressed to seeing that part of his life he was an Orthodox Christian.

What I find even MORE hilarious is that the 'TRNC' is proposing to call a future football tournament between unrecognised states the 'Nelson Mandela Cup'...even though when the great man himself was in power of South Africa...he more or less nulified political relations with Turkey because of their terrible treatment of minorities.
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:05 pm

infact what the white settlers did in South Africa is the same as what the Turks did in Asia Minor...invaded, settled then stole the rights of the indigenous peoples.
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Postby bg_turk » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:03 pm

Main_Source wrote:infact what the white settlers did in South Africa is the same as what the Turks did in Asia Minor...invaded, settled then stole the rights of the indigenous peoples.


Main_Source and his victim mentality again.

Turks unlike whites in South Africa, intermarried, mixed, assimilated and were assimilated by the local people. The indigenous population of asia minor incluing the Laz, the Kurds, many converted Greeks, etc. are an inalienable part of the turkish ethnic fabric today. There is nothing like I am really turkish, I am really greek or I am really bulgarian.
Many of the Balkan people look really the same, the bulgrians are supposed to be slavic and have blond hair but they do not, turks as derived from seljuk turks should have mongolian/tatar features but most of them do not. We dont look nothing like our ancestors. So many armies conquered these lands before, and every one of them left something into the gene pool of the local people, our origin is completely diluted. Turks were not the first to conqur these lands after all.

If turks have been so bad to the local people, and submitted them to constant appartheid, how come you greeks survived for 400 years, this is like 10-20 generations.
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:07 pm

'survived'? lol

Before the invaders came, Asia Minor had as much Greek heritage as across the Aegean. When our you going to admit the ancestors you hold such high regard for we murderous invaders from the plains of middle Asia.

You make it sound as if when the Ottomans came, they were 'nice' to the indegenous people lol. Of course though, every other peoples account from that area is wrong and the Turks are right. Thats why there is such a hold up and controversy about Turkey entering the EU...because the Turkish leadership over the years is so 'nice'.
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Postby bg_turk » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:49 pm

when the turks came the byzantine empire was on its knees, it was the latines that destroyed it. they conquered your land through the crusades, raped ravaged and destroyed Constantinople.
Constantinople was already in ruins, completely shattered and its glory faded long before the turks arrived. The byzantine empire was fragmented into warring pieces, like the rest of the balkans (bulgaria was in three parts).

Under those conditoins it was not hard for the selchuk warriors to conquer you and establish the ottoman empire. Of course like all conquerors, they raped, burnt and destroyed on their paths, the same way the byzantine empire enslaved bulgaria during the medieval period. Although the ottoman empire may have lead to the backwardness of greeks in relation to other european countries, it did not aim to destroy them or their heritage ... that was never its purpose.

Nationalism was a completely foreing notion of the time. Nationalism in the Balkans started to develop during the renaissance, or which is also called the awakening period. The greek progrom in Istanbul, the slavic massacres in North Greece and the destruction of turkish communities in the Balkans, the armenian tradegy were all the direct result of this nationalism, of which we are all equally guilty. The Ottoman empire did not destroy the greek heritage in Asia, it was the rising turkish/greek nationalism that destroyed it, the flames of which we all created together.

We have lived intermingled for centuries, often helping each other, celebrating each others holidays. Nationalism poisoned this relaionship. When you start killing people that have done no evil to you, because of their ethnicity, in the name of some contrived piece of cloth, which we call a flag, this is when the relationship between ordinary people fail. We are all animals trying to protect ourselves by joining our herds, because we are all so vulnerable as individuals.
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