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[bill cobbett]

The "police" and Torture Regime of "TRNC"

There's a features article by S. Bahceli which is well worth a read about the use of torture by the the "police" of "trnc" and the increasing gulf between the "police" and the CYs of the Occupied Areas.

Starts with reports of torture of suspects in "police" custody including cases of electric shocks, falaka (foot beating), sexual abuse and rape.

These were matters which was discussed by a "trnc" "parliamentary" committee a year ago but nothing has been done to stop the practices.

Indeed human rights lawyers in the Occupied Areas are saying that the Regime are working to protect the torturers.

We are reminded that the "police" remain under the control of the TA and we learn from one of the comments from a CY in the Occupied Areas that the "police" force are... "primarily .... composed of Settlers".

There are plans to purchase a riot control vehicle to contain the increasing number of anti-austerity demos and one interviewee talks of an ... " increasingly heavy-handed approach toward public political dissent in general..."

Above just a summary, lots more at...
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/features/win ... s/20130210

[Lordo]

if only annan was implemented, we would all be free of turkish control by now. but never mind some stupid fools saw annan as seperation and voted against it and low and behold the rejection in effect consolidated seperation. talk of turkeys voting for christmass comes to mind but never mind 10.5 months left.

[B25]

if only annan was implemented, we would all be free of turkish control by now. but never mind some stupid fools saw annan as seperation and voted against it and low and behold the rejection in effect consolidated seperation. talk of turkeys voting for christmass comes to mind but never mind 10.5 months left.

My God, you have swallowed that Turkish propaganda Bullshit well and truly. No wonder you have been blinded. Seriously, do you think Turkey would have honoured any commitments? And who was going to make her if she didn't?? Such gullible people, it's amazing

[Lordo]

if only annan was implemented, we would all be free of turkish control by now. but never mind some stupid fools saw annan as seperation and voted against it and low and behold the rejection in effect consolidated seperation. talk of turkeys voting for christmass comes to mind but never mind 10.5 months left.

My God, you have swallowed that Turkish propaganda Bullshit well and truly. No wonder you have been blinded. Seriously, do you think Turkey would have honoured any commitments? And who was going to make her if she didn't?? Such gullible people, it's amazing

no good calling god, their aint nobody there.

now lets have a loook at history and see if we can learn you something todat my b25bullui.

back to 1972. terkey agreed with dengtash to all the 13 ammandments and unified local authorities to boot. you had nothing to lose by accepting it. you had the upper hand. i say nothing to lose except enosis of course. and you glorias meglomaniac leader refused the agreement even though clerides accepted it and after all he was the negotiator. now you tel me if terkey would have accepted that. would it make any difference. but you boys refused it. to add insult to injury you had a coup and put a known psychopathic killer as president. terkey comes along and loses 5000 soldiers in protecting the tcs. and you assholes are expecting terkey to just pull out and leave to you it. especially when you wiped womeen and children from 3 villages complete and all the men including young boys from one.

it seems you do not learn from your mistakes and you never will.

you carry on with your plan of waiting for balance of power to change. strangely it is chaging but in the reverse. whilst cyprus and greece are bunkrup terkey is getting stronger producing warplanes and helicoters not to mention tanks. you just wai a few more million years and you are certain to win the battle in the end.

kapishi. maroyerimo naminede ullusas. except the usual true cypriots as it were.

[B25]

if only annan was implemented, we would all be free of turkish control by now. but never mind some stupid fools saw annan as seperation and voted against it and low and behold the rejection in effect consolidated seperation. talk of turkeys voting for christmass comes to mind but never mind 10.5 months left.

My God, you have swallowed that Turkish propaganda Bullshit well and truly. No wonder you have been blinded. Seriously, do you think Turkey would have honoured any commitments? And who was going to make her if she didn't?? Such gullible people, it's amazing

no good calling god, their aint nobody there.

now lets have a loook at history and see if we can learn you something todat my b25bullui.

back to 1972. terkey agreed with dengtash to all the 13 ammandments and unified local authorities to boot. you had nothing to lose by accepting it. you had the upper hand. i say nothing to lose except enosis of course. and you glorias meglomaniac leader refused the agreement even though clerides accepted it and after all he was the negotiator. now you tel me if terkey would have accepted that. would it make any difference. but you boys refused it. to add insult to injury you had a coup and put a known psychopathic killer as president. terkey comes along and loses 5000 soldiers in protecting the tcs. and you assholes are expecting terkey to just pull out and leave to you it. especially when you wiped womeen and children from 3 villages complete and all the men including young boys from one.

it seems you do not learn from your mistakes and you never will.

you carry on with your plan of waiting for balance of power to change. strangely it is chaging but in the reverse. whilst cyprus and greece are bunkrup terkey is getting stronger producing warplanes and helicoters not to mention tanks. you just wai a few more million years and you are certain to win the battle in the end.

kapishi. maroyerimo naminede ullusas. except the usual true cypriots as it were.

Yawn!! here we go again, spouting the same shit lies and propaganda. You and VP must be paid propagandists, you don't even need a que to go completely off topic with your usual bullshit.
You must have developed a hernia of the mouth by now Otherwise it's just blah, blah, blah all over again.

[Pyrpolizer]

back to 1972. terkey agreed with dengtash to all the 13 ammandments and unified local authorities to boot. you had nothing to lose by accepting it. you had the upper hand. i say nothing to lose except enosis of course. and you glorias meglomaniac leader refused the agreement even though clerides accepted it and after all he was the negotiator. now you tel me if terkey would have accepted that. would it make any difference. but you boys refused it. to add insult to injury you had a coup and put a known psychopathic killer as president. terkey comes along and loses 5000 soldiers in protecting the tcs. and you assholes are expecting terkey to just pull out and leave to you it. especially when you wiped womeen and children from 3 villages complete and all the men including young boys from one.

I am interested to learn where you found that 5000 figure. If once again that was another of your hearsay things just forget it.
Even a Turkish Link will suffice.

[Lordo]

back to 1972. terkey agreed with dengtash to all the 13 ammandments and unified local authorities to boot. you had nothing to lose by accepting it. you had the upper hand. i say nothing to lose except enosis of course. and you glorias meglomaniac leader refused the agreement even though clerides accepted it and after all he was the negotiator. now you tel me if terkey would have accepted that. would it make any difference. but you boys refused it. to add insult to injury you had a coup and put a known psychopathic killer as president. terkey comes along and loses 5000 soldiers in protecting the tcs. and you assholes are expecting terkey to just pull out and leave to you it. especially when you wiped womeen and children from 3 villages complete and all the men including young boys from one.

I am interested to learn where you found that 5000 figure. If once again that was another of your hearsay things just forget it.
Even a Turkish Link will suffice.

what difference does it make. 5000 4000 4500 6500. what difference will it make. people lost their lives. when they arived to help you, you guys were shooting them in the air like you shoot birds. if you welcomed them without firing a shot you just have to wonder what the outcome would have been. after all they were and still are guarantors. they had legal right to intervene.

[repulsewarrior]

...who is "you guys"? whatever the Junta was, it did not represent the population of Cyprus. notably, that same population did not come out in defence of the coup, and within days, because of the lack of support it fell. of course, if you recognise this fact, it is not so easy to identify Turkey's actions as a legal right to intervene as though all Greek Cypriots are "Greek", similarly demeaning all Turkish Cypriots as though they are all "Turk". Turkey did not act as a Guarantor therefore, but as an Illegal invader, the cost in lives, whatever it was, did not have to do with Cyprus at all, because to Turkey, Cyprus is Property, and its Proxy War with "Greeks" does not recognise that it is Cypriots that have been victimised and now, left homeless.

...yes imagine Lordo, what if the "Turks" had kept their word, so that the island would be split between them, and had they succeeded, the "Greeks", (and the Brits). imagine Turkey standing up as an International player, exposing "the deals" done darkly to get to this point, for Human Kind, and becoming truly great People, Cypriots can Love and admire. both, could have happened, they didn't. and frankly, no credit is given to Cypriots, because they through all of this represent the Hopes of the Human Spirit, yet struggling to survive, against a cruel Ignorance.

...dude i don't get you, here we are in a topic where the usual slinging has become an issue of both "sides" are torturing barbarians. you somehow think that by choosing "one" side you can fight the other. surely, if you say, I love Cyprus, you can see that it is not so clear cut. however, whether Cypriots live in a regime where their daily lives' is subject to the will of the Turkish Army, or they are led by a Leadership that is willing to defend themselves as "Greeks" while the Cyprus Republic remains Constitutionally dysfunctional, new thinking is needed. and i imagine you are more able in this regard, because a bag of titties is wrong, even though some mothers would be smiling with glee, so too the other horrendous stories we can exploit for hatred in their memory. i fight for the Freedom of Cyprus, i want Liberty for Cypriots too, i cannot see how you can choose to glorify "one" side to defy, the "other", when it is this that is the wrong, the intention of the interlocutors who deny that Cypriots exist as Cypriots, whether their vast majority is Greek, or not.

[Pyrpolizer]

back to 1972. terkey agreed with dengtash to all the 13 ammandments and unified local authorities to boot. you had nothing to lose by accepting it. you had the upper hand. i say nothing to lose except enosis of course. and you glorias meglomaniac leader refused the agreement even though clerides accepted it and after all he was the negotiator. now you tel me if terkey would have accepted that. would it make any difference. but you boys refused it. to add insult to injury you had a coup and put a known psychopathic killer as president. terkey comes along and loses 5000 soldiers in protecting the tcs. and you assholes are expecting terkey to just pull out and leave to you it. especially when you wiped womeen and children from 3 villages complete and all the men including young boys from one.

I am interested to learn where you found that 5000 figure. If once again that was another of your hearsay things just forget it.
Even a Turkish Link will suffice.

what difference does it make. 5000 4000 4500 6500. what difference will it make. people lost their lives. when they arived to help you, you guys were shooting them in the air like you shoot birds. if you welcomed them without firing a shot you just have to wonder what the outcome would have been. after all they were and still are guarantors. they had legal right to intervene.

It would make a hell lot of difference to the point you should actually re write your post plus many others.So you think the actual number is between say 4000 and 6500? What if I tell you you are far far away from the truth?
Just tell me the source of your number. I promise I will not blame you if you tell me you just heard about it, but in case you do have a link i 'd like to see it.
I will then tell you the real number. Notice the Turkish Government never announced the numbers of their casualties in 1974. The numbers were exposed by Americans.

[Viewpoint]

The numbers were never revealed, the ones available were guess work...now you give us a link of the American source.