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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:30 am

Viewpoint wrote:I have given you a system which will allow the one man one vote and keep the balance equal in the upper house, this should also be coupled with a minimum vote required from each state to pass laws. Your fear mongering of that we will move for recognized division can easily be countered in the constitution, the north state can be reduced to 27% even a referendum can be planned to convert into a unitary state if trust and cooperation grows developing into an understanding that becoming a unitary state will be far better than remaining a BBF.

You can see the merit in my proposals but you biased will not allow you the vision to see it.


VP I personally left aside the reasons why you would want that.
Are you really that blind that you can't see that your proposal would just elect 25 GCs +25 GreekTCs??
Whatever the quota to pass laws the GCs will always get what they want, and the TCs never. It totally evaporates their effective say...

Of course you are excused, humans do mistakes even when they have the best intentions, but which human could ever possibly design the system that you want -that of for a neural network of checks and balances that will leave nothing unthought of, and no possibility unanswered.
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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:32 am

Please provide examples of why the proposals falls flat?
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Re: Annan 6?

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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:33 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:...



Nothing???
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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:52 pm

Are we at the same wavelength in communication?

I asked you to tell me

which human could ever possibly design the system that you want -that of for a neural network of checks and balances that will leave nothing unthought of, and no possibility unanswered.


given the fact that you as a human just tried just one of the millions that network, and even that,failed completely in providing any check and balance.

And what did you reply? Totally irrelevant mumbo-jumbo :!:
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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:16 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Are we at the same wavelength in communication?

I asked you to tell me

which human could ever possibly design the system that you want -that of for a neural network of checks and balances that will leave nothing unthought of, and no possibility unanswered.


given the fact that you as a human just tried just one of the millions that network, and even that,failed completely in providing any check and balance.

And what did you reply? Totally irrelevant mumbo-jumbo :!:


You call it mumbo jumbo because you do not have any answers you demand a leap of faith which is not possible considering we mistrust each other to a degree of nausea. I put forward a proposal and you said that it can be manipulated by the GCs to their benefit, I ask for examples of how this is possble, all you did was to come back with nothing, no explanation or clarification.

Checks and balances have to be placed into a AP like agreement, if the clear concise ruless which I still believe are incorporated in the AP are backed up by checks and balances to ensure both sides follow through and know what the consequences will be if the do not then we can move forward. The AP was acceptable 9 years ago but today I personally would demand more checks and balances in addition to security guarantees and UN EU monitoring to force both sides to stay in line with clear concise bounderies of any agreement.
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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Are we at the same wavelength in communication?

I asked you to tell me

which human could ever possibly design the system that you want -that of for a neural network of checks and balances that will leave nothing unthought of, and no possibility unanswered.


given the fact that you as a human just tried just one of the millions that network, and even that,failed completely in providing any check and balance.

And what did you reply? Totally irrelevant mumbo-jumbo :!:


You call it mumbo jumbo because you do not have any answers you demand a leap of faith which is not possible considering we mistrust each other to a degree of nausea. I put forward a proposal and you said that it can be manipulated by the GCs to their benefit, I ask for examples of how this is possble, all you did was to come back with nothing, no explanation or clarification.

Checks and balances have to be placed into a AP like agreement, if the clear concise ruless which I still believe are incorporated in the AP are backed up by checks and balances to ensure both sides follow through and know what the consequences will be if the do not then we can move forward. The AP was acceptable 9 years ago but today I personally would demand more checks and balances in addition to security guarantees and UN EU monitoring to force both sides to stay in line with clear concise bounderies of any agreement.


Because I had answered you not only once but 3 times already that your Pan voting system will simply elect 25 GCs and 25 GreekTCs. The Gcs hold 80% of the votes, is it really very difficult for you to figure out how the GCs will vote for 25GCs+ 25 GreekTCs and there is nothing the TC voters can do about it, even if those 25 GreekTCs get zero votes from them?
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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:11 pm

What are Greek TCs?
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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:21 pm

Viewpoint wrote:What are Greek TCs?


Hmmmm unbeleivable question. After I Mentioned the term 4 times so far.... thinking it was self explanatory.


In real life a GreekTC is Sener Levent
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Re: Annan 6?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:30 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:What are Greek TCs?


Hmmmm unbeleivable question. After I Mentioned the term 4 times so far.... thinking it was self explanatory.
Well look around you in this forum. Some people call Bananiot a TurkishGC :wink:


How we expected to know what a Greek TC is if you dont give an explanation, which you in your own world think is self explanatory, is that due to your super powers?

Well its not self explanatory and you are wrong in your evaluation that Gcs being 80% of the electorate can elect 50 GC MPs, its a first past the post system according to your ethnic origins, so only 25 GC MPs can be elected the remaining 25 MPs have to be TCs whether their votes originate from GC or TC voters.....why are you being so obtuse? Bananiot can only take his place as a GC MP in the 25 GC contingent....now have you grasped the idea?
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