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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:15 pm

Viewpoint wrote:God I didnt know you were this naive, the GCs have never wanted to share Cyprus, there have been thousands of posts on this forum from GCs to support this arguement. No GC leader has the will, guts or desire to turn a state which they control 100% to one where they are a federated state. Papacrapadoplus said it all, I will not give up a country for a federated state or words to that effect. Anantaisdesias is no different, the potential is not even an issue they want 100% power, they do not want to share anything. All they are doing is keeping hope alive for refugees who lost land by saying they will get everything back, all they have to do is not die.


I think you mean "Power Sharing" that the GCs don't want, because they see it as undemocratic. It does not mean GCs don't want ALL Cypriots to share/live in the country as equal citizens.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:20 pm

Nikitas wrote:"I was elected head of a nation, I will not surrender a community" were his exact words. And it had nothing at all to do with accepting federation.

You stress your concerns ad nauseam but refuse to see those of others. And you harp about Enosis, yet you live in the midst of it. You are a strange one!


You are not calling VP a liar, are you Nikitas? :wink:
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:50 pm

Nikitas wrote:"I was elected head of a nation, I will not surrender a community" were his exact words. And it had nothing at all to do with accepting federation.

You stress your concerns ad nauseam but refuse to see those of others. And you harp about Enosis, yet you live in the midst of it. You are a strange one!


I address your biggest fear by agreeing the TA should leave but you have problems even indicating that there should be a system where decisions which effect one state more negatively than the other should not be allowed.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:51 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:God I didnt know you were this naive, the GCs have never wanted to share Cyprus, there have been thousands of posts on this forum from GCs to support this arguement. No GC leader has the will, guts or desire to turn a state which they control 100% to one where they are a federated state. Papacrapadoplus said it all, I will not give up a country for a federated state or words to that effect. Anantaisdesias is no different, the potential is not even an issue they want 100% power, they do not want to share anything. All they are doing is keeping hope alive for refugees who lost land by saying they will get everything back, all they have to do is not die.


I think you mean "Power Sharing" that the GCs don't want, because they see it as undemocratic. It does not mean GCs don't want ALL Cypriots to share/live in the country as equal citizens.


As long as GCs are in charge.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:31 pm

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Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:God I didnt know you were this naive, the GCs have never wanted to share Cyprus, there have been thousands of posts on this forum from GCs to support this arguement. No GC leader has the will, guts or desire to turn a state which they control 100% to one where they are a federated state. Papacrapadoplus said it all, I will not give up a country for a federated state or words to that effect. Anantaisdesias is no different, the potential is not even an issue they want 100% power, they do not want to share anything. All they are doing is keeping hope alive for refugees who lost land by saying they will get everything back, all they have to do is not die.


I think you mean "Power Sharing" that the GCs don't want, because they see it as undemocratic. It does not mean GCs don't want ALL Cypriots to share/live in the country as equal citizens.


As long as GCs are in charge.


No such thing in a True Federation. Only the Cypriots will be in charge, which you don't claim to be one, so I guess you are not one of us.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:36 pm

As you only equate GCs with being "true" Cypriots then you are right I am not.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:05 am

Viewpoint wrote:As you only equate GCs with being "true" Cypriots then you are right I am not.


Not at all. Cypriots are those who are citizens of the RoC, which clearly you are not. Are you a citizen of the RoC?
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:59 am

hang on a moment was it not you boys who claimed this project cannot be done and it was all a dream. what a bunch of keine hoffnungslosen fälle you have turned to be.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:31 pm

Lordo wrote:hang on a moment was it not you boys who claimed this project cannot be done and it was all a dream. what a bunch of keine hoffnungslosen fälle you have turned to be.


So where is the water from Turkey?
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:48 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:hang on a moment was it not you boys who claimed this project cannot be done and it was all a dream. what a bunch of keine hoffnungslosen fälle you have turned to be.


So where is the water from Turkey?


Excellent, now that you naughty people have finished wasting your times on VP and now that we're back on the matter of "kktc su gemini projesi"...

Here's some of the latest news...

It's a few days old but the project has run in to a lot of opposition from Turkish ecologists and for very good reason.

There's a brackish lake on the coast just to the east of Tasucu.

It's separated from the sea by a bar of sand and shingle, just a few dozen yards wide.

A very sensitive, top level environmental site, a haven for massive flocks of birds.

The lake is being used for the temporary storage of pipes for the project.

So... how did they get the pipes in to this lake...???

Yep, some of you have guessed it.

In a no expense spared, third world sort of way they bull-dozed a cut across the bar...!!!

Sea-water gets in and the result is an Environmental Disaster.

(pickies to follow)
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