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Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby kurupetos » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Jimski999 wrote:It is feasable to run a pipeline from Turkey to Cyprus; it's down to political will and there are several Turkish companies capable of doing it. Just to clarify; 370 bar pressure is nothing special on a flanged or welded pipeline. We just finished testing a flanged pipe system at 3540 bar which equates to over 55,000 PSI. We've put pipelines under the sea and through the desert operating at 420 bar; I work on the measurement and control systems.


What material are these pipes made from...???

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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Jimski999 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:24 pm

The pictures Bill posted on page 4 look like 42" pipe and made from Spun Cast Iron and are Collar and Spigot type joints which are usually sealed with a rubber gasket. This is standard pipe for water mains used throughout Europe and would be used shoreside while the undersea section would be welded. It wouldn't take much energy to move the water through the line as water finds its own level so if the discharge was lower than the filling point, the head of water would push the water through the line. Much of the UK's electricity comes from France under the channel and also fuel for after the D Day landings was pumped from refineries as far north as Scotland across the Channel. A final point to consider is that water absorbs air under high pressure so clearing the line of air is not a great problem to overcome. I'm not advocating for anything one way or another just trying to clarify a few disputed points
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:02 pm

Jimski999 wrote:The pictures Bill posted on page 4 look like 42" pipe and made from Spun Cast Iron and are Collar and Spigot type joints which are usually sealed with a rubber gasket. This is standard pipe for water mains used throughout Europe and would be used shoreside while the undersea section would be welded. It wouldn't take much energy to move the water through the line as water finds its own level so if the discharge was lower than the filling point, the head of water would push the water through the line. Much of the UK's electricity comes from France under the channel and also fuel for after the D Day landings was pumped from refineries as far north as Scotland across the Channel. A final point to consider is that water absorbs air under high pressure so clearing the line of air is not a great problem to overcome. I'm not advocating for anything one way or another just trying to clarify a few disputed points

you do realise that you will be hated for showing them that they are crap.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:50 pm

Jimski999 wrote:The pictures Bill posted on page 4 look like 42" pipe and made from Spun Cast Iron and are Collar and Spigot type joints which are usually sealed with a rubber gasket. This is standard pipe for water mains used throughout Europe and would be used shoreside while the undersea section would be welded. It wouldn't take much energy to move the water through the line as water finds its own level so if the discharge was lower than the filling point, the head of water would push the water through the line. Much of the UK's electricity comes from France under the channel and also fuel for after the D Day landings was pumped from refineries as far north as Scotland across the Channel. A final point to consider is that water absorbs air under high pressure so clearing the line of air is not a great problem to overcome. I'm not advocating for anything one way or another just trying to clarify a few disputed points


Thx for that Jimski.

Cert GB gets some electricity from France.

For those with an interest in WW2 relics, parts of the pipeline that supplied the Perfectly Legal D-Day Invasion with fuel can be seen at Shanklin Chine on the IoW, England. We've visited a couple of times. Very interesting exhibition on the project there.

... but back to "kktc su temin projesi"...

We know that there are works underway to expand the reservoir at Occupied Panagra and we also know that there are works to upgrade some parts of the very leaky water distribution system in "trnc". That these works are going on is not in contention. Further, it isn't in contention that there may be transport of water in tankers to the expanded reservoir from Turkey.

What is in contention is the cross-sea pipeline, which will not be of welded together iron pipes.

The claim is that it will be 70+ kms of 1.8m diameter HDPE tubing of 10cms wall thickness suspended at a depth of 250m from floats and anchored with tethers to anchors on the sea-bed a 1000m below.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Jimski999 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:41 pm

Hi again Bill; we've just put an outfall into the sea with 2.4 metre HDPE pipe with 50mm wall and it goes out about 2 Kilometres. They actually fuse it together using what is basically a massive heating ring. Around the outside is spiral wrapped 3' pipe which gives it bouyancy to float it out into position and then it is pumped with liquid cement to sink it onto the sea bed. This pipe is laid into a trench on the sea bed and then covered over. I remember reading about a similar proposed floating road and rail tunnel between the North and South islands of Japan though whether it ever passed the proposal stage I'm not sure. I'm just looking at it from an Engineering perspective; not political.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:49 pm

its a comin boyssssssssssssssssssssssss woooossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby kurupetos » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:24 am

Lordo wrote:its a comin boyssssssssssssssssssssssss woooossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:lol: Do you have a sewage system in the occupied areas?
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:59 am

These doubters will just about say anything to make themselves feel better about this project not succeeding, sounds like outright jealousy to me, what will you say when that first gush of water hits our shores? its not real water, its imaginery :lol: do you know how stupid you people sound from this side? very very very very stupid.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby B25 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:33 pm

Viewpoint wrote:These doubters will just about say anything to make themselves feel better about this project not succeeding, sounds like outright jealousy to me, what will you say when that first gush of water hits our shores? its not real water, its imaginery :lol: do you know how stupid you people sound from this side? very very very very stupid.


VP, good luck to you and your water. I hope you will be happy with this leash that Turkey is about to place upon you. Don't say you haven't been warned.

The GC side will not be taking any of this water you can be sure of that, so good riddance to you guys.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:11 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:These doubters will just about say anything to make themselves feel better about this project not succeeding, sounds like outright jealousy to me, what will you say when that first gush of water hits our shores? its not real water, its imaginery :lol: do you know how stupid you people sound from this side? very very very very stupid.


VP, good luck to you and your water. I hope you will be happy with this leash that Turkey is about to place upon you. Don't say you haven't been warned.

The GC side will not be taking any of this water you can be sure of that, so good riddance to you guys.


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