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[Viewpoint]

Patience is a virtue obviously a chav like you bill wouldnt know.

[Demonax]

... so just three weeks to go before we get another announcement of a delay in the start of the cross-sea passage ... prob 'til next year...

How did the TCs ever get to turn the most fertile part of Cyprus into a desert? The water is there, the lazy, stupid oafs just don’t know how to grow anything.

[repulsewarrior]

... so just three weeks to go before we get another announcement of a delay in the start of the cross-sea passage ... prob 'til next year...

How did the TCs ever get to turn the most fertile part of Cyprus into a desert? The water is there, the lazy, stupid oafs just don’t know how to grow anything.

...indeed, i have wondered about that myself.

[Lordo]

rw what who are the lazy stupid oafs again you agreed with?

[Demonax]

rw what who are the lazy stupid oafs again you agreed with?

The stupid oafs who don't know how to manage water resources.

Water, water everywhere. But not a drop to drink. Idiots.

[repulsewarrior]

rw what who are the lazy stupid oafs again you agreed with?

...settlers, dear Lordo, (the ones who are getting what they want), the developers (and the carpetbaggers) who think about their pockets before anything else, and as Demon says those within the regime who should know better.

...it is a valid question. why is the most fertile part of Cyprus in this crisis?

[Viewpoint]

rw what who are the lazy stupid oafs again you agreed with?

...settlers, dear Lordo, (the ones who are getting what they want), the developers (and the carpetbaggers) who think about their pockets before anything else, and as Demon says those within the regime who should know better.

...it is a valid question. why is the most fertile part of Cyprus in this crisis?

No water but wait a few more months and it will be here.

[bill cobbett]

... so just three weeks to go before we get another announcement of a delay in the start of the cross-sea passage ... prob 'til next year...

How did the TCs ever get to turning the most fertile part of Cyprus into a desert? The water is there, the lazy, stupid oafs just don’t know how to grow anything.

Well a few thoughts ...

Look at the situation in the Free Areas where there has been massive investments in new dams, such as the huge Kouris, the Southern Conveyor scheme to bring water from the wetter west to dryer east and the desalination plants.

No such investment in the Occupied Areas. No new dams and an antiquated and leaky distribution system that loses as much water as it supplies. We know that in the past few months there are schemes underway to renew parts of this system and to re-cycle waste-water, and "trnc" won't publicise this bit... funded by the EU.

Speaking of EU money, some 25 Million Euros was wasted on attempts to build a de-sal plant on the northern coast in "trnc". A scheme which would have made a significant contribution to potable water supplies up there. A scheme that came to nothing cos "trnc" refused to allow a firm from the Free Areas and its experienced workers to work on the project.

Then, look at the terribly important matters of geology and water management...

"trnc" had the advantage of that very plentiful aquifer under the nice porous limestone of the Kyrenia mountains. Huge aquifer which runs from the west above Occupied Morphou, through Occupied Karavas and Occupied Lapithos, past Occupied Kyrenia and all the way up the Karpas. It and the cooler and wetter climate up there explain what was a relative green-ness.

Now, all aquifers require decent management. The northern aquifer has been over-exploited as any Tom, Dick and Mehmet could extract from it as soon as they got off the boat from Mersin... and they did, in their tens of thousands, doing what Anatolians do, which is to grow crops, to farm.

Adding to the over-abstraction has been the expansion of tourism and those Turkish Hotels with their big water requirements, all coming from the same aquifer.

Result is salt-water intrusion and a buggered aquifer from one end to the other.

So buggered that Kologassi is no longer grown commercially on any great scale in the Karpas... that's how bad things are.

So bad that "trnc" came up with the propaganda idea of the fictional "project of the century".

[repulsewarrior]

rw what who are the lazy stupid oafs again you agreed with?

...settlers, dear Lordo, (the ones who are getting what they want), the developers (and the carpetbaggers) who think about their pockets before anything else, and as Demon says those within the regime who should know better.

...it is a valid question. why is the most fertile part of Cyprus in this crisis?

No water but wait a few more months and it will be here.

water you will pay for (one way or another), water which is not yours (for shame).

[Demonax]

... so just three weeks to go before we get another announcement of a delay in the start of the cross-sea passage ... prob 'til next year...

How did the TCs ever get to turning the most fertile part of Cyprus into a desert? The water is there, the lazy, stupid oafs just don’t know how to grow anything.

Well a few thoughts ...

Look at the situation in the Free Areas where there has been massive investments in new dams, such as the huge Kouris, the Southern Conveyor scheme to bring water from the wetter west to dryer east and the desalination plants.

No such investment in the Occupied Areas. No new dams and an antiquated and leaky distribution system that loses as much water as it supplies. We know that in the past few months there are schemes underway to renew parts of this system and to re-cycle waste-water, and "trnc" won't publicise this bit... funded by the EU.

Speaking of EU money, some 25 Million Euros was wasted on attempts to build a de-sal plant on the northern coast in "trnc". A scheme which would have made a significant contribution to potable water supplies up there. A scheme that came to nothing cos "trnc" refused to allow a firm from the Free Areas and its experienced workers to work on the project.

Then, look at the terribly important matters of geology and water management...

"trnc" had the advantage of that very plentiful aquifer under the nice porous limestone of the Kyrenia mountains. Huge aquifer which runs from the west above Occupied Morphou, through Occupied Karavas and Occupied Lapithos, past Occupied Kyrenia and all the way up the Karpas. It and the cooler and wetter climate up there explain what was a relative green-ness.

Now, all aquifers require decent management. The northern aquifer has been over-exploited as any Tom, Dick and Mehmet could extract from it as soon as they got off the boat from Mersin... and they did, in their tens of thousands, doing what Anatolians do, which is to grow crops, to farm.

Adding to the over-abstraction has been the expansion of tourism and those Turkish Hotels with their big water requirements, all coming from the same aquifer.

Result is salt-water intrusion and a buggered aquifer from one end to the other.

So buggered that Kologassi is no longer grown commercially on any great scale in the Karpas... that's how bad things are.

So bad that "trnc" came up with the propaganda idea of the fictional "project of the century".

Fascinating stuff, bill. It just goes to show that there is no alternative to planned and sustainable water management. The pipe from Turkey, if it ever materialises, is just an admission of total failure. More of a political project than anything to do with the real water needs of the occupied areas. If the GCs were in charge of the north, the place would be flourishing and fertile. Not the wasteland the cretins in the north have created through their stupidity and incompetence.