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Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:21 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So now do you believe this water will come from Turkey?


It will come VP don't worry. But with the reported percentages of what is completed it may delay a bit.
But that shouldn't be a problem you can wait a little longer isn't it?


I agree if it arrives its a bonus if not its not the end of the world, why do you people get do worked up?


We are just thinking and talking VP. This is the purpose of the forum isn't it?
Could you please tell me are there any steams coming from the mountains around and ending up in that dam at Gecitkoy? I mean if there are some streams then certainly it could be filled up by rain water during the winter periods.That would be a great plus don't you agree?


I wouldnt know but have a look at the water source in Turkey just spilling into the sea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHeKGl8txEc


Amazing :!:
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:33 pm

It will come VP don't worry. But with the reported percentages of what is completed it may delay a bit.
But that shouldn't be a problem you can wait a little longer isn't it?

I agree if it arrives its a bonus if not its not the end of the world, why do you people get do worked up?
We are just thinking and talking VP. This is the purpose of the forum isn't it?
Could you please tell me are there any steams coming from the mountains around and ending up in that dam at Gecitkoy? I mean if there are some streams then certainly it could be filled up by rain water during the winter periods.That would be a great plus don't you agree?

I wouldnt know but have a look at the water source in Turkey just spilling into the sea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHeKGl8txEc


Amazing :!:[/quote]

Maybe one day you can visit these beautiful places in Turkey.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:42 am

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repulsewarrior wrote:...here you have the economics of water (4) times the price, at this point it is absolutely necessary to invest in the technology to irrigate fields most efficiently. it is the upkeep of the equipment which is 'expensive', as well as the failures and repair. a farmer may invest with the intent of saving money, but it is not an investment, once it's installed, that works without maintenance. for many smaller farmers, it is this that makes it hard to justify, and it is also the reason big agribusiness thrives, with special seeds and fertilizers, at some output greater there are greater economies of scale. now that we are talking, a thought, settlers will come with farms, they won't even "own" the land, they'll be parts of turnkey operations in the Karpas, brand new for the friends of Erdogan who he'll deem worthy because of the tributes from them. big water will mean big farms, but in this case they won't be Cypriot, just numbers in a bottom line for the "TRNC", to claim how things are well under control as a social-economy.


Don't think we're talking big farms RW... they just don't fit in CY outside the potato farms of the Mesouria, in the main it'll continue to be a sort of part-time, peasant type farming, one that relies very heavily on EU subsidies and is kept by these EU grants. Without these subsidies many farms in CY would close, then we get into problems of what to do to maintain landscapes.

Surely it would be far more efficient to see more grown in plastic green-houses, cash crops like tomatoes and water-melons... more efficient in terms of water use and more productive...???

Dunno, need an farming expert to tell us more.


absolutely, i agree, modern farming techniques is a step up, and i hope the lovely EU money goes to education, Cyprus potatoe are famous, but as you say, tomatoes are more valuable as a cash crop. i am not an expert either, but i can only remain hopeful that this is not a boondoggle meant to exploit Cyprus as plunder, where some benefit falls on the regime itself, with very little left for the Cypriots who this project is supposedly for.

...can it be that the cost of it is not counted because the water is not important?
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:26 pm

Well, this water business is so important.

This is the front-page news from yesterday in the Occupied Areas...

..."Mehmetçik köyü suya kavuştu

Jeoloji ve Maden ve Su işleri Dairesi ekiplerinin Mehmetçik köyü civarında yaptığı kazı çalışmalarında suya ulaşıldı.
belediyenin köyde özellikle yaz aylarında yaşanan su sıkıntılarına çözüm bulma yönünde Jeoloji ve Maden ve Su işleri Dairesi ekipleriyle birlikte başlattığı kazı çalışmalarında, Yedikonuk bölgesinde açılan kuyuda su bulunduğunu bildirdi.

Açılan kuyudan Mehmetçik köyüne saatte 15 tonluk su takviyesi yapılacağı da belirtilen açıklamada, böylelikle yıllardır yaşanan su sıkıntısının ortadan kalkacağı kaydedildi..".


A translation tells us just how important water is up there. It's about a successful boring for water near the Occupied Village of Galateia, which is about halfway up the Karpas.

It's producing about 15 tonnes an hour, which is a useful amount on a small local level, but let's be realistic it's not a huge amount yet it makes the front pages.

... and it begs a question of where is this water coming from...??? Is this from a new source of water or are we pumping out from a known aquifer...??? ...and if we are, then ain't we still using the same and ultimately very limited supply...???

... and being in the narrow promontory of the Karpas, being so close to the sea, how long before sea-water is drawn in to fill and ruin the aquifer...???
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:09 am

Following a special request for more info on this water, here's a picky.

Always good to see nice cold water coming out of the ground. Looks like a 3"-4" supply...
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:58 am

At the beginning of this month we were promised that "project of the century" would start laying the cross-sea section in June.

Now that looks as if it's been put back to August.

... and there is some very curiuos reporting from the Baycrap Propaganda site who make some contradictory claims about the progress of "project of the century"...

First they claim that 13 kms of pipe-line have been installed underwater so far.

Even though and secondly they claim that the ship that will lay the cross-sea won't be on station 'til August!

... and they produce no new pictures of the project. Would have been one of the easiest things in the World to have produced some new photos but they don't.

The press of the Occupied Areas naturally pick up on this and reproduce it verbatim and post the same old library pictures we've been seeing for years. Everyone of them reproducing the same old stock picture.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:52 pm

why are so wooried. it will get there when it does. tcs waited 50 years they can wait a few more years. it will cot you though. double to what tcs pay.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:15 pm

Lordo wrote:why are so wooried. it will get there when it does. tcs waited 50 years they can wait a few more years. it will cot you though. double to what tcs pay.


Bill the chav appears to be in some sort of panic mode, what is he worried about?
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Lordo wrote:why are so wooried. it will get there when it does. tcs waited 50 years they can wait a few more years. it will cot you though. double to what tcs pay.


Bill the chav appears to be in some sort of panic mode, what is he worried about?


BillC will start getting worried when you past some pickies of the cross-sea passage of "project of the century" actually being constructed.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Nikitas » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:49 am

Piple laying across a deep sea bed cannot be interrupted. The pipe is laid in one continuous loop, with new rolls of pipe being continuously welded and laid at a slow pace. I still cannot figure out how the mid section laid at 1000 meter depths will resist the crushing pressure. There is an atmosphere of pressure for every 10 meters depth. And this water will make it across 110 kms with no intermediate pumping stations in a plastic heavy section pipe.

Exactly what is gained in time and money over two VLCC sized tankers doing a continuous back and forth is the mystery. The tankers are available today, if there was the will to actually do this project it could get going in a matter of days. Greek island used to be tanker supplied for years before the installation of desalinators, and the system worked fine.
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