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[repulsewarrior]

thanks for reminding me bill, the water treatment plant, it is quite amazing really when you think about it. Cyprus did not have any system of asphalt roads or drinking water infrastructure back in 1960 when Cypriots were freed from subjugation, by Mankind, with Sovereignty of their island through self-representation. this resourcefulness has taken them very far. indeed since they have been torn apart, as "Greeks" and "Turks", the north remains (more) broken down without this substantive progress. i think Turkey's intention is becoming quite clear, since first as Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots were looted of their ability to make decisions for themselves, as Cypriots. Erdogan himself will plan the roads and water, of his garrison, toward the betterment of what he defines, as Cypriot Turks: more settlers and $$$ for (and from) cronies, carpetbaggers, more imams and mosques, more statues, too;
oh well, as vp often says, what can you do: i say, be clear. join with those that fly the Cypriot flag, highest. they exist.

in a battle for our survival against Climate Change water is a valuable weapon. in Cyprus, as a weapon, what gives us life should not be squandered to fight ourselves, as "Greeks" and "Turks".

...will the pipeline solve things, not really, without a change in the attitude of mind. most certainly, it is not a panacea, grey water, all water, conservation, (and it's treatment) are as important, if not more important.


cheers.

[bill cobbett]

thanks for reminding me bill, the water treatment plant, it is quite amazing really when you think about it. Cyprus did not have any system of asphalt roads or drinking water infrastructure back in 1960 when Cypriots were freed from subjugation, by Mankind, with Sovereignty of their island through self-representation. this resourcefulness has taken them very far. indeed since they have been torn apart, as "Greeks" and "Turks", the north remains (more) broken down without this substantive progress. i think Turkey's intention is becoming quite clear, since first as Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots were looted of their ability to make decisions for themselves, as Cypriots. Erdogan himself will plan the roads and water, of his garrison, toward the betterment of what he defines, as Cypriot Turks: more settlers and $$$ for (and from) cronies, carpetbaggers, more imams and mosques, more statues, too;
oh well, as vp often says, what can you do: i say, be clear. join with those that fly the Cypriot flag, highest. they exist.

in a battle for our survival against Climate Change water is a valuable weapon. in Cyprus, as a weapon, what gives us life should not be squandered to fight ourselves, as "Greeks" and "Turks".

...will the pipeline solve things, not really, without a change in the attitude of mind. most certainly, it is not a panacea, grey water, all water, conservation, (and it's treatment) are as important, if not more important.


cheers.

Yes, massive strides in roads, water dams, electricity supply etc since 1960.

Often surprised when visiting CY,which is usually during the Summers, to see so much precious water going in to agriculture, with farmers irrigating fields of crops such as clover during the mid-afternoon heat... surely it would be wiser and less wasteful to water at night...??? ... just a thought.

[repulsewarrior]

...here you have the economics of water (4) times the price, at this point it is absolutely necessary to invest in the technology to irrigate fields most efficiently. it is the upkeep of the equipment which is 'expensive', as well as the failures and repair. a farmer may invest with the intent of saving money, but it is not an investment, once it's installed, that works without maintenance. for many smaller farmers, it is this that makes it hard to justify, and it is also the reason big agribusiness thrives, with special seeds and fertilizers, at some output greater there are greater economies of scale. now that we are talking, a thought, settlers will come with farms, they won't even "own" the land, they'll be parts of turnkey operations in the Karpas, brand new for the friends of Erdogan who he'll deem worthy because of the tributes from them. big water will mean big farms, but in this case they won't be Cypriot, just numbers in a bottom line for the "TRNC", to claim how things are well under control as a social-economy.

[Viewpoint]

So now do you believe this water will come from Turkey?

[Pyrpolizer]

So now do you believe this water will come from Turkey?

It will come VP don't worry. But with the reported percentages of what is completed it may delay a bit.
But that shouldn't be a problem you can wait a little longer isn't it?

[Viewpoint]

So now do you believe this water will come from Turkey?

It will come VP don't worry. But with the reported percentages of what is completed it may delay a bit.
But that shouldn't be a problem you can wait a little longer isn't it?

I agree if it arrives its a bonus if not its not the end of the world, why do you people get do worked up?

[bill cobbett]

...here you have the economics of water (4) times the price, at this point it is absolutely necessary to invest in the technology to irrigate fields most efficiently. it is the upkeep of the equipment which is 'expensive', as well as the failures and repair. a farmer may invest with the intent of saving money, but it is not an investment, once it's installed, that works without maintenance. for many smaller farmers, it is this that makes it hard to justify, and it is also the reason big agribusiness thrives, with special seeds and fertilizers, at some output greater there are greater economies of scale. now that we are talking, a thought, settlers will come with farms, they won't even "own" the land, they'll be parts of turnkey operations in the Karpas, brand new for the friends of Erdogan who he'll deem worthy because of the tributes from them. big water will mean big farms, but in this case they won't be Cypriot, just numbers in a bottom line for the "TRNC", to claim how things are well under control as a social-economy.

Don't think we're talking big farms RW... they just don't fit in CY outside the potato farms of the Mesouria, in the main it'll continue to be a sort of part-time, peasant type farming, one that relies very heavily on EU subsidies and is kept by these EU grants. Without these subsidies many farms in CY would close, then we get into problems of what to do to maintain landscapes.

Surely it would be far more efficient to see more grown in plastic green-houses, cash crops like tomatoes and water-melons... more efficient in terms of water use and more productive...???

Dunno, need an farming expert to tell us more.

[Pyrpolizer]

So now do you believe this water will come from Turkey?

It will come VP don't worry. But with the reported percentages of what is completed it may delay a bit.
But that shouldn't be a problem you can wait a little longer isn't it?

I agree if it arrives its a bonus if not its not the end of the world, why do you people get do worked up?

We are just thinking and talking VP. This is the purpose of the forum isn't it?
Could you please tell me are there any steams coming from the mountains around and ending up in that dam at Gecitkoy? I mean if there are some streams then certainly it could be filled up by rain water during the winter periods.That would be a great plus don't you think?

[Viewpoint]

So now do you believe this water will come from Turkey?

It will come VP don't worry. But with the reported percentages of what is completed it may delay a bit.
But that shouldn't be a problem you can wait a little longer isn't it?

I agree if it arrives its a bonus if not its not the end of the world, why do you people get do worked up?

We are just thinking and talking VP. This is the purpose of the forum isn't it?
Could you please tell me are there any steams coming from the mountains around and ending up in that dam at Gecitkoy? I mean if there are some streams then certainly it could be filled up by rain water during the winter periods.That would be a great plus don't you agree?

I wouldnt know but have a look at the water source in Turkey just spilling into the sea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHeKGl8txEc

[Pyrpolizer]

So now do you believe this water will come from Turkey?

It will come VP don't worry. But with the reported percentages of what is completed it may delay a bit.
But that shouldn't be a problem you can wait a little longer isn't it?

I agree if it arrives its a bonus if not its not the end of the world, why do you people get do worked up?

We are just thinking and talking VP. This is the purpose of the forum isn't it?
Could you please tell me are there any steams coming from the mountains around and ending up in that dam at Gecitkoy? I mean if there are some streams then certainly it could be filled up by rain water during the winter periods.That would be a great plus don't you agree?

I wouldnt know.

Ask someone reh deli