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[Lordo]

what you are really after is reparation rw but to get that you have to win the war so you can make those that lost pay it. having lost the war you are hardly in any position to force this issue with terggy no matter how cruel your leadership is toward the tcs. you see the crueller your leadership are to the tcs the more terggy thanks you because the more dependent you make the tcs on terggy in every way. do you get my drift.

[kurupetos]

..."gifted" so to speak, to Cyprus (the Republic) means retribution, recognition, from both is Justice seen; and their own ties strengthened.

...who knows, speaking of pipelines, plans are for Russia, with Turkey, to transport gaz to Europe, through Greece.

Water to Lebanon, from Turkey, through Cyprus, at that point is not so unrealistic.

It was too good to be true...

[repulsewarrior]

what you are really after is reparation rw but to get that you have to win the war so you can make those that lost pay it. having lost the war you are hardly in any position to force this issue with terggy no matter how cruel your leadership is toward the tcs. you see the crueller your leadership are to the tcs the more terggy thanks you because the more dependent you make the tcs on terggy in every way. do you get my drift.

It is not what i am after Lordo, it is Justice, seen.

...cruel, crueler, cruelest, who?

Turkey, i'd say. The water, to drink is not there, yet, why? Enough said. It is "Turkey's" water, and Erdogan will choose as he pleases.

...in my mind, yes, the water is best given as "Peace water", with this gesture recognising that Cyprus as Cypriots exist, it will help to take the tarnish off of Turkey's image.

[Lordo]

you mean justice like what we got at omorphita with sampson holding a terggish flag and taking away tc civillians in 1964. is it that kind of justice. surely you can have the same amount of justice as the tcs got from groc and more. i tell you what you can have 10 times as much. hows that.

[repulsewarrior]

...what are you on about?

...seriously.

[Mustiejodu]

Been enjoying sitting back and reading all the banta on the forum. My view is that TC are deluded with this bull shit so called KKTC that has no legitimacy and only exists by support by TURKEY. As long as we have deluded people TURKEY will happily support this delusion as it is in their favour. GC are as deluded as their compatriots across the barbed wires joining the EU thinking that this would achieve their mission impossible. REALITY CHECK TURKEY IS SECURING ITS HOLD ON THE NORTH IN WAYS YOU CANNOT IMAGINE. THEY HAVE REALLY AND TRUELY INVADED CYPRUS NOT AS YOU ALL THINK THAT HAPPENED IN 3 DAYS IN 1974 BUT NOW AS WE SPEAK.

EU IS ABOUT TO IMPLODE WITH UK BREXIT VOTE. THIS WILL WEAKEN THE EU AND THERE WILL BE MORE COUNTRIES LEAVING. JOINING THE EU WILL NO LONGER APPEAL TO TURKEY AND THE LEAVERAGE OR INFLUENCE ON TURKEY BY EU WILL CRUMBLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN THEN ?

[repulsewarrior]

...people will still be thirsty.

[B25]

Been enjoying sitting back and reading all the banta on the forum. My view is that TC are deluded with this bull shit so called KKTC that has no legitimacy and only exists by support by TURKEY. As long as we have deluded people TURKEY will happily support this delusion as it is in their favour. GC are as deluded as their compatriots across the barbed wires joining the EU thinking that this would achieve their mission impossible. REALITY CHECK TURKEY IS SECURING ITS HOLD ON THE NORTH IN WAYS YOU CANNOT IMAGINE. THEY HAVE REALLY AND TRUELY INVADED CYPRUS NOT AS YOU ALL THINK THAT HAPPENED IN 3 DAYS IN 1974 BUT NOW AS WE SPEAK.

EU IS ABOUT TO IMPLODE WITH UK BREXIT VOTE. THIS WILL WEAKEN THE EU AND THERE WILL BE MORE COUNTRIES LEAVING. JOINING THE EU WILL NO LONGER APPEAL TO TURKEY AND THE LEAVERAGE OR INFLUENCE ON TURKEY BY EU WILL CRUMBLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN THEN ?

Hello Musti, welcome back, been missing your hard hitting posts.

I agree with everything you say here, shit there may be hope for us yet!!!

[kurupetos]

...people will still be thirsty.

Until death...

[repulsewarrior]

...people will still be thirsty.

...we will see Musti, you paint a very grim picture.

I see it at the other extreme. Erdogan may just as well have an epiphany, a way out so to speak that no one has thought of, after all, he is always surprising us with what evil can be exploited for his own gain, at some point he may feel he personally has enough, enough to care more, about the legacy he will be leaving.

Cyprus makes a great ally, so does Greece, Israel, and Egypt (witness the tripartite meetings, witness the European Presidency). Cyprus, out of the picture failed, fifty years of Turkish Foreign Policy failed with the negative result it received with Annan's Plan. Cypriots exist, there is no denying it, and Turkey is the "only one", who could tip the balance in its favour, in Cyprus, except for the persistence of these people, as a People to favour a Cypriot way, not "Greekness", or "Turkishness". The other half remains, as Cypriots divided, or not.

Erdogan could just as well create from this National Issue, his issue, an opportunity to lead Internationally a Turkey less tarnished (and in Turkey itself), to deescalate the tensions. It requires the Grace to say Turkey was wrong: there are Turkish speaking people who are Cypriots, there are those whose origin is Greek, but they are all Cypriots, not "Turks" and the rest (read: "Greek") "not Turk"; this water, as "Peace water", may have this meaning, still.