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[Pyrpolizer]

you and charlui said it was a myth that it could not be done.

what is it with you people. 350 pounds per square inch pressure at 250 meters depth is less than the pressure your carwash jetter throws out onto the car bonnet with no problem what so ever. a whale can dive 3000 meters below water and it has no problems. water pipe that diameter with smooth bends does not need any airpocket removers of any kind.

when it comes to electricity how many times do we have to say it. there is no pumps involved between terggy and cyprus. the pumps are in cyprus to push the water over the mountain. not that it would be needed but thats for another day.

Starting from the last point how many times should we prove to you there are PUMPS in Turkey.
The pressure inside the pipes should be maintained at 20bar to have the specific flow rate. Add 28 bar because of the depth subtract 28 for the outside counter pressure. That's nett 20 bar. No problem for a static system.
However the system is not static . It's dynamic. This pressure fluctuates. And it could cause the pipe to crack.
The pipe is HDPE with liner inside. It's not as smooth as you think.
Air-pockets need to be removed. Those are the ones that will cause the pressure to fluctuate until the pipe punctures on the first place.
They can't escape my themselves at a horizontal pipe.See the problem at my orchard on page 200.
Secondly if those air pockets are left to accumulate inside the pipe there will be so much anosis that it will either cut the ropes or the pipe or bring them all to the surface of the sea.
You see no problems?
I see a million. I rolled 36 times and the best I got was a 66. No 77 yet.

[Lordo]

put it this way we said it would be built and you said not
we said it is flowing and you said it was a trick with some tanker
we say there is no problems you say it will collapse after one year.
after one year when all else is fine you will then go for 2 years and 3 and then 4 and then 5. these pipes will go for a very long time. get used to it.

[DrCyprus]

put it this way we said it would be built and you said not
we said it is flowing and you said it was a trick with some tanker
we say there is no problems you say it will collapse after one year.
after one year when all else is fine you will then go for 2 years and 3 and then 4 and then 5. these pipes will go for a very long time. get used to it.

I think it should start dawning to you that the Turkey you identify with and the Turkey currently on the table are two entirely different things.

[Lordo]

terggy is not at the talks dear boy. akinci is. usa and the eu is backing the talks. erdogan to challenge usa has to grow balls the size of everest. once you fit them you have a rest.

[repulsewarrior]

...thank-you, insan, over the years i have read your references, they are likely sited already in this topic (one way or the other).

What is unclear is why so little information has been offered. The water has arrived, can you tell me how it is being used? And if it is used to what potential? So far we have not had an Official Ceremony, where people drink from the water, why not? Why did we not see more work at the University on this technology, in Cyprus, or in Turkey for that matter, years before, and during its construction, what about cavitation, what about the capacity building Turkey has for the wider region? Why have there been no efforts to include real time images of the work, environmental studies, cost/benefit analysis, lab reports, why are issues not openly discussed, there must be issues, nothing is perfect; nothing but politics, and with this kind of politics the corruption that hides behind such grand ideas in minds' of men just as greedy as the man on the top once in power still Ignorant. It is nothing different, it is plunder. The water is not for people, the water is for money, that is certainly more true than Lordo saying it is for free, (or what the Propaganda would have you believe, that it is for 'us', the Cypriot people, for "Peace"). I still think it is to pay the remedy associated with Turkey's blame, nothing more, in it Turkish Cypriots get some, the State gets the rest with the recognition of the Republic of Cyprus.

@insan, a little late, i started this post hours ago and just got back to finish it.

[Nikitas]

Thanks for the references guys, you obviously have not read them through! The (very Greek sounding) Hydropolitical paper concludes:

"Still, water as a strategic resource in the region remains significant.If Turkey is able to contribute to regional stability by providing water, such a development would be beneficial for Turkey as well as countries in the region. Region requires more stability after big oil and gas reserves discovery

After Huge gas reserves have been discovered underneath the eastern Mediterranean between Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon and Israel, a new paradigm came out in the region

New hydropoltics and petropolitics of the region put some joint and extrordinary projects on the table that is forcing more interdependency in the region

The new paradigm and hydropolitics -petropolitics has already began to shape the future of the region.The new negotiations on Cyprus and Cyprus water pipeline will exactly lead to joint projects in the energy sector"

while in the text it details how a tanker project costing a mere 20 million to transport water to Israel was abandoned as too costly.

The study merely confirms that the point of the water is to create dependencies in neighboring countries which then Turkey can exploit by imposing its own terms for joint gas and oil projects. This is obviously NOT going to fly when it comes to the Israeli and Egyptian gas, and very unlikely in the case of the Cypriot fields which are much nearer to Egypt than any other country, and there are ready installations in Egypt to be used for storage and transport. This week there is a tripartite meeting in Athens between the energy ministers of the three countries.

The hunger for gas is also indicative that Turkey dreads the possibility of a full and official partition of Cyprus, no matter how much it likes to threaten with it in case of a failure in the talks. The last thing the Turks want is a fully independent, even though territorially diminished, RoC. So they use the always pliable and convenient TCs for their uses. And naturally they find equally useful GC politicians who play the talks game ad infinitum. The day someone has enough balls to say "fuck it, let's have partition and be done with it" that is when things will change.

[Nikitas]

"But for now a floating steel pipeline seems pretty neat."

This from the second cited source. Well, so much for accurate information being given in a technical report. If I was that guy's editor I would fire him.

[Lordo]

"But for now a floating steel pipeline seems pretty neat."

This from the second cited source. Well, so much for accurate information being given in a technical report. If I was that guy's editor I would fire him.

who is to say there is no steel mesh in the plastic. you boys have to move on. find something else to moan about.

[repulsewarrior]

...and who says that you must apologise for "Turkishness", at each musing by someone not "Turkish".

Wire mesh my ass, get a life, that is as rich as VP, and the spies. You remember don't you? Might even be at the beginning of this thread, the reason why there is no desalination plant for Cypriots living within the occupied territories, also, Free!!!!!, no less, paid for by the EU: Spies Lordo, because the "Greeks" that would have worked as contractors in its building could have been spies.
Do you pull them out of a hat?

...you had one barrel of piss, from what i understand now there are two, you will wait a long time for the water to drink, a few more barrels more.

[Nikitas]

Moaning! Not at all. I am awed, by the cynicism of the Turks and the servility of the TCs that were illustrated by this project.

I am also curious about the technical side.

Moaning, though. Never. I leave that to the TC mayors who are moaning about being ousted from the distribution of the holy water.