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[Lordo]

We have a choice, to believe Cinar or Lordo re the operational depth of submarines.

And now the cost starts to surface and the inevitable question, does the consumer have a choice between imported and local water? A question that becomes more relevant after the latest round of grid unification announced last week. In the end GCs might find that they pay for this pharaonic project without ever being consulted about it.

typical of you to take things out of context. cinar is saying they chose that depth because submarines used do not go below 200 meters. where is the contradiction. problems like these are dealt with as and when they arise. remote tools do not have problem with depth only people have. each problem is solved on an individual basis.

dont you worry.

the water is free so is the pipeline. we will no doubt pay for the supply at the trnc and if necessary groc will pay for their supply plus water. there is no free water for you.

[Pyrpolizer]

We have a choice, to believe Cinar or Lordo re the operational depth of submarines.

And now the cost starts to surface and the inevitable question, does the consumer have a choice between imported and local water? A question that becomes more relevant after the latest round of grid unification announced last week. In the end GCs might find that they pay for this pharaonic project without ever being consulted about it.

typical of you to take things out of context. cinar is saying they chose that depth because submarines used do not go below 200 meters. where is the contradiction. problems like these are dealt with as and when they arise. remote tools do not have problem with depth only people have. each problem is solved on an individual basis.

dont you worry.

the water is free so is the pipeline. we will no doubt pay for the supply at the trnc and if necessary groc will pay for their supply plus water. there is no free water for you.

Are you dumb or are you playing dumb?
Submarines don't go below 200m, hence any repair work is impossible. Secondly you said only 17Km are left, whereas he says only 11km have been completed. Thirdly he says you will PAY for the water but the price is yet unknown.While it is unknown he knows it won't be more than what you already pay, and he estimates there will never be cost recovery.

So either YOU are lying or HIM or BOTH.
My bet is for BOTH.

A long time ago I predicted that if this project is ever completed it will work for 2-3 days maximum one week and then explode. MARK MY WORDS

[Get Real!]

Submarine depth depends on the strength of the hull. But anyway, Lordo I suspect Turkey just wants to dump her sewerage on you.

[Lordo]

We have a choice, to believe Cinar or Lordo re the operational depth of submarines.

And now the cost starts to surface and the inevitable question, does the consumer have a choice between imported and local water? A question that becomes more relevant after the latest round of grid unification announced last week. In the end GCs might find that they pay for this pharaonic project without ever being consulted about it.

typical of you to take things out of context. cinar is saying they chose that depth because submarines used do not go below 200 meters. where is the contradiction. problems like these are dealt with as and when they arise. remote tools do not have problem with depth only people have. each problem is solved on an individual basis.

dont you worry.

the water is free so is the pipeline. we will no doubt pay for the supply at the trnc and if necessary groc will pay for their supply plus water. there is no free water for you.

Are you dumb or are you playing dumb?
Submarines don't go below 200m, hence any repair work is impossible. Secondly you said only 17Km are left, whereas he says only 11km have been completed. Thirdly he says you will PAY for the water but the price is yet unknown.While it is unknown he knows it won't be more than what you already pay, and he estimates there will never be cost recovery.

So either YOU are lying or HIM or BOTH.
My bet is for BOTH.

A long time ago I predicted that if this project is ever completed it will work for 2-3 days maximum one week and then explode. MARK MY WORDS

you boys excelling today. i read a proper report and it said 17 km left. it is what it is. when it comes exploding, it cannot explode because the difference between the pressure outside and in aint so great that the pipe cant hold it.
if submarines can't go any lower what the hell was the sub doing 35,000 feet in 1960 you is one hell of dumbo.

<<<<A small submarine, the bathyscape Trieste, made it to 10,916 meters (35,813 feet) below sea level in the deepest point in the ocean, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench, a few hundred miles east of the Philippines. This part of the ocean is 11,034 m (36,200 ft) deep, so it seems that a submarine can make it as deep as it's theoretically possible to go. The water pressure at this depth is over 1000 atmospheres. Life does exist here, as well as a carpet of diatomaceous material that covers all the ocean floors of the world.

Trieste was manned by two people and funded by the United States Navy. The pressure sphere used was 2.16 m (6.5 ft) across, with steel walls 12.7 cm (5 inches) thick, able to withstand 1.25 metric tons per cm2 (110 MPa) of pressure. The pressure sphere of Trieste, which weighed 8 metric tons in water, was not neutrally-buoyant because the steel had to be so thick for a 2 m-sized sphere at that depth to withstand the pressure that it would have sunk like a rock on its own. Therefore Trieste's pressure sphere had to be attached to a series of gasoline floats, accompanied by iron pellets for weight.>>>>>


i suspect the reason why subs do not go any lower is because there no gain in building them to go lower. but hey this pretend griikk land where the gods rule.

no problem is unsolvable. the problem is understanding the problem. once you understood the problem you have half the solution. the rest easy.

[repulsewarrior]

...somehow the "Turks" are special. Everyone pays, but the "Turks". (For "them", money is no object.)

funny! because it is too sad.

[Pyrpolizer]

you boys excelling today. i read a proper report and it said 17 km left. it is what it is. when it comes exploding, it cannot explode because the difference between the pressure outside and in aint so great that the pipe cant hold it.
if submarines can't go any lower what the hell was the sub doing 35,000 feet in 1960 you is one hell of dumbo.

<<<<A small submarine, the bathyscape Trieste, made it to 10,916 meters (35,813 feet) below sea level in the deepest point in the ocean, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench, a few hundred miles east of the Philippines. This part of the ocean is 11,034 m (36,200 ft) deep, so it seems that a submarine can make it as deep as it's theoretically possible to go. The water pressure at this depth is over 1000 atmospheres. Life does exist here, as well as a carpet of diatomaceous material that covers all the ocean floors of the world.

Trieste was manned by two people and funded by the United States Navy. The pressure sphere used was 2.16 m (6.5 ft) across, with steel walls 12.7 cm (5 inches) thick, able to withstand 1.25 metric tons per cm2 (110 MPa) of pressure. The pressure sphere of Trieste, which weighed 8 metric tons in water, was not neutrally-buoyant because the steel had to be so thick for a 2 m-sized sphere at that depth to withstand the pressure that it would have sunk like a rock on its own. Therefore Trieste's pressure sphere had to be attached to a series of gasoline floats, accompanied by iron pellets for weight.>>>>>


i suspect the reason why subs do not go any lower is because there no gain in building them to go lower. but hey this pretend griikk land where the gods rule.

no problem is unsolvable. the problem is understanding the problem. once you understood the problem you have half the solution. the rest easy.

if you read a "proper"report you should present it, just like I did, otherwise you convince nobody. So where's your "proper" report?

The pipes will explode for 3 reasons a) the pressure inside will be much higher than outside everywhere along the sank pipe b)The path that is not sank or sank less than 280m will suffer from huge pressures inside and no counterbalance pressure outside.c)The pipes can explode anywhere but the high risk points are where the pipe descents from 270 to 280m and at the point it ascents from 280m to 270m.
There is only one solution to this, to reduce the flow rate dramatically.
The announced flow rate is so huge that will create too many bubbles too many air pockets inside that act as cannon firing. Too many cannon firings and the pipes will crack. In fact from the very first day (if they keep that huge flow rate) the whole 80Km will be shaking like a car with no tires running on gravel.How long will it endure?

Your simplistic brain doesn't understand that submarines need openings and windows to do outside work. Try to make an opening on any submarine to fix a robotic arm at 280m below sea level and you will see what happens. Try to fix glass windows on them and enjoy drowning your people.
It's one thing to lower a canned steel box very deep in the sea and another to have windows and fix robotic arms that will do useful work at such depth.

[Lordo]

you are going to have a heart attack unless you learn when to be serious and when to relax. mostly you must relax so you live longer.

[Lordo]

you boys excelling today. i read a proper report and it said 17 km left. it is what it is. when it comes exploding, it cannot explode because the difference between the pressure outside and in aint so great that the pipe cant hold it.
if submarines can't go any lower what the hell was the sub doing 35,000 feet in 1960 you is one hell of dumbo.

<<<<A small submarine, the bathyscape Trieste, made it to 10,916 meters (35,813 feet) below sea level in the deepest point in the ocean, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench, a few hundred miles east of the Philippines. This part of the ocean is 11,034 m (36,200 ft) deep, so it seems that a submarine can make it as deep as it's theoretically possible to go. The water pressure at this depth is over 1000 atmospheres. Life does exist here, as well as a carpet of diatomaceous material that covers all the ocean floors of the world.

Trieste was manned by two people and funded by the United States Navy. The pressure sphere used was 2.16 m (6.5 ft) across, with steel walls 12.7 cm (5 inches) thick, able to withstand 1.25 metric tons per cm2 (110 MPa) of pressure. The pressure sphere of Trieste, which weighed 8 metric tons in water, was not neutrally-buoyant because the steel had to be so thick for a 2 m-sized sphere at that depth to withstand the pressure that it would have sunk like a rock on its own. Therefore Trieste's pressure sphere had to be attached to a series of gasoline floats, accompanied by iron pellets for weight.>>>>>


i suspect the reason why subs do not go any lower is because there no gain in building them to go lower. but hey this pretend griikk land where the gods rule.

no problem is unsolvable. the problem is understanding the problem. once you understood the problem you have half the solution. the rest easy.

if you read a "proper"report you should present it, just like I did, otherwise you convince nobody. So where's your "proper" report?

The pipes will explode for 3 reasons a) the pressure inside will be much higher than outside everywhere along the sank pipe b)The path that is not sank or sank less than 280m will suffer from huge pressures inside and no counterbalance pressure outside.c)The pipes can explode anywhere but the high risk points are where the pipe descents from 270 to 280m and at the point it ascents from 280m to 270m.
There is only one solution to this, to reduce the flow rate dramatically.
The announced flow rate is so huge that will create too many bubbles too many air pockets inside that act as cannon firing. Too many cannon firings and the pipes will crack. In fact from the very first day (if they keep that huge flow rate) the whole 80Km will be shaking like a car with no tires running on gravel.How long will it endure?

Your simplistic brain doesn't understand that submarines need openings and windows to do outside work. Try to make an opening on any submarine to fix a robotic arm at 280m below sea level and you will see what happens. Try to fix glass windows on them and enjoy drowning your people.
It's one thing to lower a canned steel box very deep in the sea and another to have windows and fix robotic arms that will do useful work at such depth.

you understand nothing of this pipeline no matter how much you read. it is best to just relax and absorb. it will be the first of its kind and one of the wonders on the earth. the terggs will go into history for doing a some thing nobody else has been able to do. going to the moon or anywhere else is nothing when compared with this project. strangely enough they have also done similar going so far with so little fuel used and mainly using gravity.

is that not amazing using gravity to travel in space.
and now for some water.
flow water flow even uphill if you have to.

[repulsewarrior]

...the word, propaganda, comes to mind.

[Lordo]

...the word, propaganda, comes to mind.

what propaganda rw. you have no idea what the song dersim is about. let me explain dersim is the land of the kurds and it supplies life and water to south eastern anatolia. in what way is it propaganda.