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[Lordo]

i have many gc friends and when they say turkey they pronounce it terggy.

[Nikitas]

The EU tells us what to do.....

Not exactly, the EU is a partnership of states that jointly make the rules that apply to ALL of them. It is indicative of Turkish cynicism, of which Musti is a wonderful example on this forum, to interpret that as the will of the powerful on the weak. Justifiable mistake for someone who lives in the trunc, where place names are changed on a whim, properties are "nationalised" according to the race of the original owner, the security apparatus is in the hands of a foreign power.

You need to widen your horizons a little, stop coming across in your posts like a prick.

Now for the water. Is that pipe complete as that official said in the press report linked to the post above? Does anyone know? Is it likely to flow before the mosques are built in Havana?

The engineering approach is novel, there are calculations made that a large diameter flexible pipe can be suspended 250 meters subsurface, covering a span of 80 kilometers, with no provision for maintenance, (250 meters is deeper than divers can operate) and this was regarded and accepted as a wiser engineering solution to the two desal plants proposed and financed by the EU. It is also projected as a more secure water link than large tankers.

Desal plants function in times of drought, are locally controlled, and cheaper than the pipe. But they were EU financed, and some of the engineers were GCs, and they were nixed on those grounds. And then they have the nerve to talk about racism!

The tankers are available now, even faster than the pipe or the desal plants. Yet they are not used now, as if the water need can be put off waiting for the pipe to work. I tis obvious that the umbilical cord myth is a powerful political symbol. But umbilical cords are for infants, not mature independent communities.

[B25]

Yes, and umbilical cords can easily be cut too!

[Lordo]

dream on baby25

[Nikitas]

Ships, protected by heavy duty antifouling paint, and working at draft depth of 30 to 40 feet need repainting every 2 to 3 years. The pipeline anchors permanently stuck at 250 meters and deeper will need antifouling how often? And how will they be serviced? I did not see any provision made for lifting and painting them. And no, they are not stainless steel.

Structures put in a marine environment grow heavy layers of barnacles and other marine life which increase weight over time, sometimes in a short time. It will be interesting to see how this pipe with metal joints every 60 meters and two anchors every 500 meters will fair with barnacles. It really is a fascinating project on many levels. "Barnacles are of economic consequence, as they often attach themselves to man-made structures, sometimes to the structure's detriment." Wikipedia.

[repulsewarrior]

...definitely something i would have liked to have seen as a University study, a result published, which would demonstrate to me that it is truly a "Turkish" project, something which is enriching to the population, as a Society, a real application of brain-power, years in the making, many studies, because it is as you say Nikitas, a fascinating project on many levels; nothing's to be found, is it such a secret, or is the info just not there, is this just taxpayer money spent by a government big on spending taxpayers' money?

...it would not be the first failed attempt at bringing water from Turkey to Cyprus, (although there are practical choices proven successful by other civic authorities); the pipeline may be built, but what of its lifetime, indeed.

[Flying Horse]

Ships, protected by heavy duty antifouling paint, and working at draft depth of 30 to 40 feet need repainting every 2 to 3 years. The pipeline anchors permanently stuck at 250 meters and deeper will need antifouling how often? And how will they be serviced? I did not see any provision made for lifting and painting them. And no, they are not stainless steel.

Structures put in a marine environment grow heavy layers of barnacles and other marine life which increase weight over time, sometimes in a short time. It will be interesting to see how this pipe with metal joints every 60 meters and two anchors every 500 meters will fair with barnacles. It really is a fascinating project on many levels. "Barnacles are of economic consequence, as they often attach themselves to man-made structures, sometimes to the structure's detriment." Wikipedia.

So basically, not the water of life at all.
In time it will become the poison that killed off the north with salt water .... ..... .....

If of course, if that middle bit ever gets sunk into the sea in the first place!

[Mustiejodu]

...frankly it sounds like poetry to me, and i take it as such; what Turk when talking Turkey is proud at this moment with its Leadership: Turkey sounds like "terggy" at this point (to me, too), doesn't it?

Mustie, you have the humour of a dogmatist, i suppose if you were Cypriot you'd get it, even as a "Turk", the ilk like Erdogan, or Eroglu, are nothing to brag about...

...can't you laugh a little, no? ...not in the book?

That was my humour which you guys obviously don't get .

[Mustiejodu]

The mature approach to the subject of if or when is why . why would claims of this nature be made and it ends up all a myth? Why would Turkey make claims and not come with the goods . What would that achieve . I can understand to a point making political claims against the greeks because politicians will be politicians but these claims would have a devastating affect on the relationship with TC s and Turkey so I don't for a moment think this is a myth . If you see the amount of infrastructures built by turkish firms then you can see why they would want to bring free flowing water. It's not just for the TCs its to build a self reliant infrastructure that is the basis for a fully functioning country . Their objective is plain and clear and you are too blind to see it because you thought by joining EU that you would have leaverage but the basic things in life is what is the leaverage .

I don't contest that there is a beginning of a pipeline in Turkey, or an end at a dam in the occupied areas of Cyprus. What I want to know, is where is the middle. This is very important to me. Where is the infrastructure? Where in the sea has it gone? Where, through what villages does it connect through and supply? What fields have been dug up to contain them?

It's not a stupid question, as I'm not blind. I want to know if it affects me.....illegally!

The Turks always put on the pomp and ceremony for such big things, but for this pipeline it's been postponed countless times. I'd expect news at every turn to rub in the faces of the Greek Cypriots.

You want to know if it affects you illegally ? Now there is a question which you can answer by investigating that big old dam that was built over a turkish village on the greek side to which not one turk can now make a claim on . My advice to you about rubbing in your face is basically don't let it rub you in the face . It's very simple . TCs have to put up with your racist attitudes towards us . Well actually your racist attitudes towards any race apart your own . You only need to look at how the philipinos are treated . The point here is live and let live . Well the bigger point here is you don't really have any say in what happens in the north to be blunt with you . You don't have the right legal or ellegal which ever way you want to look at it to have a say in any part of the changes in the north . You don't even have a say on your own side as EU regulates rules and your income . Every puppet has its master . Yours is EU and ours is Turkey . Get the message or do you require more clarification

Oh....The.....irony......
Let me clarify something to you

I aint even Greek, you cock wombling pillock!

Ps, take YOUR racism and stick it up yer arse

Don't give a fuck what you are . This message is to you and your opinions . Don't give a fuck who you are it's still none of your concern what happens in the north . You have less rights to an opinion than a feral dog

[Mustiejodu]

The EU tells us what to do.....

Not exactly, the EU is a partnership of states that jointly make the rules that apply to ALL of them. It is indicative of Turkish cynicism, of which Musti is a wonderful example on this forum, to interpret that as the will of the powerful on the weak. Justifiable mistake for someone who lives in the trunc, where place names are changed on a whim, properties are "nationalised" according to the race of the original owner, the security apparatus is in the hands of a foreign power.

You need to widen your horizons a little, stop coming across in your posts like a prick.

Now for the water. Is that pipe complete as that official said in the press report linked to the post above? Does anyone know? Is it likely to flow before the mosques are built in Havana?

The engineering approach is novel, there are calculations made that a large diameter flexible pipe can be suspended 250 meters subsurface, covering a span of 80 kilometers, with no provision for maintenance, (250 meters is deeper than divers can operate) and this was regarded and accepted as a wiser engineering solution to the two desal plants proposed and financed by the EU. It is also projected as a more secure water link than large tankers.

Desal plants function in times of drought, are locally controlled, and cheaper than the pipe. But they were EU financed, and some of the engineers were GCs, and they were nixed on those grounds. And then they have the nerve to talk about racism!

The tankers are available now, even faster than the pipe or the desal plants. Yet they are not used now, as if the water need can be put off waiting for the pipe to work. I tis obvious that the umbilical cord myth is a powerful political symbol. But umbilical cords are for infants, not mature independent communities.

Really and you have become a expert in EU burocracy . You are a new member and very wet behind the ears . It's us London tax payers that keep you at float . We still have the british pound . What currency do you use ? No longer cypriot is it . You really are brain washed . Don't even get me into who governs who .