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[Nikitas]

The bad weather cessation of works in a pipeline project makes no sense. Pipelines are a continuous laying process. You just cannot stop work, and leave the end of a pipe, or a cable for that matter, dangling in limbo. IT has to be attached to a ship, or else you lose it. The seas in winter are rarely that rough that work stops. Force 7 is still working weather for small fishing boats, force 8 and trawlers still fish, force 9 is rough but large passenger ships still carry out their schedules.

You can get these conditions even in the middle of summer. We had a force 7 southewesterly in July when i sailed to Limassol, the ship had no problem and none of us got sick even.

[Mustiejodu]

The bad weather cessation of works in a pipeline project makes no sense. Pipelines are a continuous laying process. You just cannot stop work, and leave the end of a pipe, or a cable for that matter, dangling in limbo. IT has to be attached to a ship, or else you lose it. The seas in winter are rarely that rough that work stops. Force 7 is still working weather for small fishing boats, force 8 and trawlers still fish, force 9 is rough but large passenger ships still carry out their schedules.

You can get these conditions even in the middle of summer. We had a force 7 southewesterly in July when i sailed to Limassol, the ship had no problem and none of us got sick even.

Stop trying to undermine the efforts of the turkish people . Who gives a fuck what your opinion is . Your just a small fish in a big sea . You have already admitted you have not gone to the north so you have no idea what they are doing in the north . The ottomans conquered in 1570 and they are now doing the same but economically and very soon politically. There are TCs that have equal rights to this land but you and your kind have done nothing but try to deny us this right .you have shown this by joining EU without us so fuck off and forget about any agreements or solutions

[bill cobbett]

Progress report on the cross-sea part of "kktc su temin projesi" ...

Oh, oh well, there isn't any progress...!!!

Despite calm sea conditions, and for the third day running, there are no vessels in the project area.

Indeed, vessels are slipping away to other destinations.

On this evidence "su temin projesi", the alleged "project of the century" of tergish engineering, is deffo in danger of turning in to a very embarrassing Flop of the Century for the supporters of Turkey/"trnc", including our mushroomy brother Nero.

So, the promises by Eroglu and the chap wandering around the Occupied Areas calling himself a "minister" of environment or something or other, of an "umbilical cord" to the Womb of the Mother Turkiye are starting to look pretty scammy.

[repulsewarrior]

The bad weather cessation of works in a pipeline project makes no sense. Pipelines are a continuous laying process. You just cannot stop work, and leave the end of a pipe, or a cable for that matter, dangling in limbo. IT has to be attached to a ship, or else you lose it. The seas in winter are rarely that rough that work stops. Force 7 is still working weather for small fishing boats, force 8 and trawlers still fish, force 9 is rough but large passenger ships still carry out their schedules.

You can get these conditions even in the middle of summer. We had a force 7 southewesterly in July when i sailed to Limassol, the ship had no problem and none of us got sick even.

Stop trying to undermine the efforts of the turkish people . Who gives a fuck what your opinion is . Your just a small fish in a big sea . You have already admitted you have not gone to the north so you have no idea what they are doing in the north . The ottomans conquered in 1570 and they are now doing the same but economically and very soon politically. There are TCs that have equal rights to this land but you and your kind have done nothing but try to deny us this right .you have shown this by joining EU without us so fuck off and forget about any agreements or solutions

Mustiejodu, i congratulate you for expressing yourself so clearly, your words touched my heart. It does not exclude the need for something better, different to the way things are. I do not disagree with you, but our security as Human Beings, as Individuals, is not Guaranteed either by the "Greeks" or the "Turks". In essence, i suggest that there lacks a Greek Constituency, so that even with an overwhelming majority of the population being Greek (or not), the Republic can represent its Citizens, as Cypriots, given that as "Greeks", Cypriots share the same Liberty toward sustaining the distinct identities of other Cypriot Constituencies at another level of Government. a BBF includes at least three governing bodies, think about it.

...is a baby with two mothers (or three, or four) torn in two? so too, it is the welfare of the child we are talking about, which i fear you are ignoring.

Water may pay a lot of reparations, it can if Turkey see a worth that is bigger, in paying her dues. Needless to say, Erdogan's part in it is not stellar so far, still stuck on the beginnings of the Modern Age, a plunderer in my opinion, he takes water from one place and brings it to another, big deal i say, a boor that comes from the Age before the one we are leaving, and i suggest that Modern Thinking is needed, given that the world moves beyond toward the Information Age. I find it telling that there is so little information, and it seems that there are so few who have shared in a project billed as, one, for the century. Why is so little information out there where we (the Human Race) can share in it? Is Turkey big, like the USA, France, and others, bigger than most, building on an idea that will change the lives of millions? This is it, one puny pipeline (finally built)? I have to ask myself because i can't see it, Turkey's (read: Erdogan's) intentions, and this i think is a failing in Turkish Policy, not unlike penguins on TV, nothing based on the substance.
...which i am surprised, although you support it, you don't want to criticise it, you don't even want it criticised.

[Nikitas]

Musti,

my interest in this pipe line thing is from the engineering point of view alone. I do not give a damn if it succeeds or not, even though the onwers of the water, the Turks through their PM Davut keep offering it to the south, more so than to the north. Most recent offer was during Davut's visit to Athens a few weeks ago. You should have been here to hear him gloat about the water and its value to the RoC. And how the RoC needs the water as much as Turkey needs the gas. But that is your problem.

A suspended 80 km long pipeline is an engineering first. I am curious about it. Still cannot figure out why two dedicated water tankers would not do this years ago, or why the Eu funding for the desal plant was turned down. Desal works even in force 12 winds.

[bill cobbett]

More evidence pointing to the abandonment of the cross-sea part of the Flop of the Century that used to be called "kktc su temin projesi"...

The pretty capable Norwegian heavy-lift vessel, the Bourbon Pearl, and its ROVs are leaving.

Destination given as Syros, which is .... oh, it's in Greece.

[Nikitas]

An interesting aside- it is debatable if international maritime law allows such a project. A suspended pipe line crossing international waters is a navigation hazard, navigation in this case including submarine traffic.

The description given by the British engineers indicate a 80kmm long flexible pipe which is suspended by floats that are themselves submerged at an unknown depth. I guess that this depth will vary with external water tmperature and internal load. They did not say how the thing is horizontally located, ie by anchors, or left to snake free in the currents. Whichever way it is a novel seaborne structure affecting navigation. The closest info I find covers cable laying operations, but those are temporary and the cables rest on the sea bottom. Interesting.

[Lordo]

interesting that anywhere these pipes are being laid the land values have gone up 100 percent already. when the water comes along they will be 1000 percent.

http://emlakkulisi.com/guncel/kktc-su-temin-projesi-ne-zaman-bitecek/166754

[bill cobbett]

interesting that anywhere these pipes are being laid the land values have gone up 100 percent already. when the water comes along they will be 1000 percent.

http://emlakkulisi.com/guncel/kktc-su-temin-projesi-ne-zaman-bitecek/166754

Best sold straightaway before news of the prob abandonment of "kktc su temin proseji" gets out...

... after all, what goes up, can come down.

[Nikitas]

Why only near the pipes? The idea is that water will be available everywhere, or so Davut says, and especially to the south, he said so in Athens a few weeks ago. I heard him.