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[Kikapu]

What a proven liar like you says is irrelevant.....people all over the World pay for usage of water so trying to twist this Project which you claimed would never happen just shows your bitterness and hate towards us...so go eat your own shit you liar.

So, once again you are admitting that you will pay for ALL the cost and not Turkey.

CASE CLOSED!

Rubbish from a known liar...now CASE CLOSED.

Rubbish is what you pick up in the north you told us.

It's good to know that you are good at something else, other than being a Racist Fascist.

[Lordo]

talking out of your arse again i see my swiss friend. so long as we are embargoed we dont pay anything. in any case transport will not cost anything. back to school and learn how water naturally runs downhill.

as to the future we will give terkey a base or two or three and she will supply water electricity and security in return. i think it is only fair. you cannot say we are not fair my crooked minded twisted friend.

You can't give anything to Turkey that she can't take on her own from you. Know your place and shut up as Erdogan will tell you.

For every downhill, there is an uphill!

Call it a proverb if you want!

for once you are half correct. we have indeed had our uphill and it seems to be down from 74 onward.

when it comes to our osmanli pasha, he is just fine and he knows what he will get when he misbehaves. he is the only terk who accepted political equality in cyprus with the tcs sharing cyprus with our gc cousins. which other terkish leader ever accepted such an option in the past.

when you post at least be consistent not jumping from one branch to the other like a monkey. you problem then of course is when people look up into the branches to see you, all they see is an asshole.

[Nikitas]

Well, I told you so in a recent post! The water is not for TCs.


Vezyr Davut's position regarding the water connection to Cyprus is that it will ultimately be used to counterbalance the oil and gas discoveries of the south. This was reported in Kathimerini daily today, citing Turkish sources close to the vezyr ,who hopes to sell the water to the GCs, or exchange it with oil and/or gas.

One more instance of cynical use of the TCs in a wider geopolitical game that the TCs either know and accept, or in which they are unwilling dupes.

What the vezyr has forgotten is that the GCs are not as dumb as he thinks, and the people who are after the gas are obviously much smarter than both. Desalination as a by product of refining is internationally known, and it costs a lot less than desalination on its own. The ploy is not going to work.

He is going to have to use the water to give himself a healthy enema.

[Lordo]

and of course what ever gatimerini says must be the truth right. how stupid are you.

[Viewpoint]

Well, I told you so in a recent post! The water is not for TCs.


Vezyr Davut's position regarding the water connection to Cyprus is that it will ultimately be used to counterbalance the oil and gas discoveries of the south. This was reported in Kathimerini daily today, citing Turkish sources close to the vezyr ,who hopes to sell the water to the GCs, or exchange it with oil and/or gas.

One more instance of cynical use of the TCs in a wider geopolitical game that the TCs either know and accept, or in which they are unwilling dupes.

What the vezyr has forgotten is that the GCs are not as dumb as he thinks, and the people who are after the gas are obviously much smarter than both. Desalination as a by product of refining is internationally known, and it costs a lot less than desalination on its own. The ploy is not going to work.

He is going to have to use the water to give himself a healthy enema.

Me thinks someone is lieing here, the GCs claim they do not need water, so if they are telling the truth which is very doubtfull then Turkey is not bringing the water here for them.

[repulsewarrior]

Yes, it does seem that water can only be supplied if the source, as RW puts it, is "Turkish enough"...

... cos am reminded of the debacle over building a de-sal plant at Occupied Siriankhori a year or two ago, something that would have made a very valuable contribution to potable water supply in the Occupied Areas... and which came to nothing with 25 Million Euros of the EU Assistance Programme wasted down the drain of "trnc" intransigence cos the Propaganda Regime of "trnc" thought the skilled workers who were building it were too "greek" and denied them access to the site.

This is how the EU Court of Auditors judged the failure of the project...

"...WATER SECTOR
38. The construction of the seawater desalination plant at Sirianokhori/ Kumköy is not only the main project in the water sector but also the largest intervention funded under the instrument, amounting to ap- proximately 10 % of total contracted funding. The plant was intended to provide 23 000 m3 of clean drinking water per day covering the needs of an estimated 100 000 people. The design of the plant changed con- siderably during the project formulation process. The original proposal had been to build a plant to treat brackish groundwater but this ap- proach was dropped because of concerns over compliance with the Water Framework Directive.
39. Despite its importance, very limited progress was made on the imple- mentation of the contract, mainly due to the Greek Cypriot workers of one of the consortium’s contractors being denied access to the site by the Turkish armed forces and the unresolved issue of the performance guarantee (see Box 2). According to the contract conditions, the Com- mission, as contracting authority, is responsible for providing access to the construction site but in practice this is outside its control.
40. The failure to implement this project represents a significant setback for the overall assistance programme. Water supply is becoming an increas- ingly critical issue for the island following a 40 % decrease in the mean annual rainfall in the past 30 years. Moreover, as one of the purposes of the project was to stop the ecologically unsustainable use of ground- water reserves, the cancellation of the project means that this serious environmental issue will not be addressed. The aquifer is under increas- ing threat from saline intrusion due to over-pumping and pollution from human and agricultural activities...."

...vp, wake up, because Cypriots can take care of themselves far better. you will be a beneficiary in having water to drink, but at what cost, why not consider? of course, if you are "Turkish", this is all according to plan, everything is for the so called "Motherland", because Cyprus is a Barrack with services, not an island with its own unique Heritence, Cyprus does not exist to "them", so it doesn't matter what "they" do to the land, never-mind the poor relations with "others" labelled "Greeks".

[bill cobbett]

Yes, it does seem that water can only be supplied if the source, as RW puts it, is "Turkish enough"...

... cos am reminded of the debacle over building a de-sal plant at Occupied Siriankhori a year or two ago, something that would have made a very valuable contribution to potable water supply in the Occupied Areas... and which came to nothing with 25 Million Euros of the EU Assistance Programme wasted down the drain of "trnc" intransigence cos the Propaganda Regime of "trnc" thought the skilled workers who were building it were too "greek" and denied them access to the site.

This is how the EU Court of Auditors judged the failure of the project...

"...WATER SECTOR
38. The construction of the seawater desalination plant at Sirianokhori/ Kumköy is not only the main project in the water sector but also the largest intervention funded under the instrument, amounting to ap- proximately 10 % of total contracted funding. The plant was intended to provide 23 000 m3 of clean drinking water per day covering the needs of an estimated 100 000 people. The design of the plant changed con- siderably during the project formulation process. The original proposal had been to build a plant to treat brackish groundwater but this ap- proach was dropped because of concerns over compliance with the Water Framework Directive.
39. Despite its importance, very limited progress was made on the imple- mentation of the contract, mainly due to the Greek Cypriot workers of one of the consortium’s contractors being denied access to the site by the Turkish armed forces and the unresolved issue of the performance guarantee (see Box 2). According to the contract conditions, the Com- mission, as contracting authority, is responsible for providing access to the construction site but in practice this is outside its control.
40. The failure to implement this project represents a significant setback for the overall assistance programme. Water supply is becoming an increas- ingly critical issue for the island following a 40 % decrease in the mean annual rainfall in the past 30 years. Moreover, as one of the purposes of the project was to stop the ecologically unsustainable use of ground- water reserves, the cancellation of the project means that this serious environmental issue will not be addressed. The aquifer is under increas- ing threat from saline intrusion due to over-pumping and pollution from human and agricultural activities...."

...vp, wake up, because Cypriots can take care of themselves far better. you will be a beneficiary in having water to drink, but at what cost, why not consider? of course, if you are "Turkish", this is all according to plan, everything is for the so called "Motherland", because Cyprus is a Barrack with services, not an island with its own unique Heritence, Cyprus does not exist to "them", so it doesn't matter what "they" do to the land, never-mind the poor relations with "others" labelled "Greeks".

Ah... funny you should bring up the little matter of the desalination plant RW, the failed scheme that cost the European Union 25 Million Euros and that has produced zero water.

A scheme that could be producing tens of thousands of tonnes of clean water a day.

A scheme that failed cos of the Usual Intransigence of "trnc" and the TA, who didm't allow experienced firms from the Free Areas to work on the project.

Now RW, ask VP to tell us about the second attempt to build a desalination plant in the Occupied Areas that we hear a little about, a more recent attempt, one that was to be the work solely of Turkey/"trnc", completely funded by Turkey/"trnc"...

... a scheme that failed to provide the CYs up there with much-needed water cos of the massive Corruption that went on, leading to the work being abandoned.

[repulsewarrior]

yes bill 25 million Euros to supply !00,000, compared to the hundreds of millions being spent for a population a little more than double that size...

...obviously, no one makes investments like these without considering the derivatives of their choices, vp does not mind if the "Turks" assimilate "Cypriotness", because no such joy exists in his heart, he could not care that most of the land (that this new "Turkish" infrastructure will promote) will be, not Cypriots', but faceless property holders who are foreign to Cyprus itself; he, just like "them" are in it, for the money.

[Nikitas]

Interesting to read in the Auditors Report how access was denied to GC workers, who were being paid by others, not TCs, yet 12000 TCs go through the checkpoint and work in the Free Areas daily.

Note that the denial was not from the TRNC regime, so as to keep up the pretense of an independent government and all that crap, it was the Turkish army that said no, and the "government" had to lump it.

Where is Bananiot to explain how this is more proof of GC intransigence.

[Viewpoint]

Interesting to read in the Auditors Report how access was denied to GC workers, who were being paid by others, not TCs, yet 12000 TCs go through the checkpoint and work in the Free Areas daily.

Note that the denial was not from the TRNC regime, so as to keep up the pretense of an independent government and all that crap, it was the Turkish army that said no, and the "government" had to lump it.

Where is Bananiot to explain how this is more proof of GC intransigence.

Id revise that figure Niki, if you have noticed your economy has taken a nose dive and people have been laid off that includes thousands of TCs.

This claim that GCs were denied Access to the plant do you have any links of facts about why this happened and what the EU did to resolve matters , do you think anyone especially the EU would want to throw away millions, they would just bring other experts from the EU to do the job.