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by **bill cobbett** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:56 am

This is reported by one source in the Occupied Areas known by some as "trnc", the news-site Afrika...

Turkey/ "TRNC" is again being dragged before the Courts of the Republic, but in a very curious affair...

"TRNC" is being sued at the Famagusta District Court by a Mr Cafer Curcafer, a former hotelier and former chairman of the “turkish Cypriot Building Contractors’ Union” in matters arising from the Mimoza Hotel in Occupied Famagusta, which is in the Salamis area.

Whilst living in the Occupied Areas, Mr Curcafer is reported as having "acquired" the business of the Mimoza Hotel and Mr Curcafer is now said to be claiming that "trnc" "sold" him a Stolen Hotel...!!!

The list of Stolen Hotels issued by the Republic has the Mimoza noted as a 102-bed 3* Hotel with its ownership designated as "gc".

I believe that it has been re-named as the Mimoza Beach Hotel and is not to be confused with the Mimosa Beach Hotel in Protaras in the Free Areas.

Mr Curcafer, who is now living in the Free Areas, is further reported as seeking 2 Million Euros as compensation from "trnc" in this court action.

Court papers were duly served on Turkey at the Turkish Embassy in Athens. Naturally and as always, Turkey/"trnc" won't turn up for the court hearing, which is expected to be heard in February.

We shouldn't be surprised if Mr Curcafer takes matters further with an application to the ECHR shortly afterwards.

by **B25** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:21 am

Does he have to go to the IPC first

by **bill cobbett** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:39 am

B25 wrote:Does he have to go to the IPC first

Dunno file... he may not of course go to the ECHR as suggest above, once he has an order from the Famagusta District Court, he could go to any enforcement agency in the EU with it. He'll have options.

... but it's a very curious affair.. you might hear other stories about this chap's development work in the Occupied Areas... all very curious...

by **Lordo** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:01 pm

presumably he did not know it was stolen. because if he did it will be kicked out of court. you cannot sue somebody for selling you stolen goods if you knew they were stolen. but than again this is the banana world where everything is bent.

by **bill cobbett** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:17 pm

Well, it's all very curious...

Others are saying this chap was associated in some ways with Gary Robb, who was you'll recall convicted of dealing in stolen properties by the Republic and who spent several months in Nicosia Gaol.

All very curious cos some are saying that this Gary Robb may also be taking "trnc" / Turkey to the Courts of the Republic for "selling" him properties with dodgy kochans.

Perhaps a few of the CarpetSquatters will do similar, rather than wasting even more of their money and what little of their time that's left on this Earth going through the charade of what pass as "courts" in "trnc".

Not only all very curious, but things may get a lot more curious.

by **Viewpoint** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:34 pm

Does anyone know this crook Cafer Gurcafer?

by **bill cobbett** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Does anyone know this crook Cafer Gurcafer?

Tell us about him please VP.

by **Viewpoint** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:15 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Does anyone know this crook Cafer Gurcafer?

Tell us about him please VP.

Do your own research, when are you going back to your own country?

by **Kikapu** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:19 pm

In all reality, this case is no different than the Orams case, only this time the defendants are not the Orams as individuals, but Turkey as a state, and since the "trnc" has no assets and Turkey has deep pockets in the EU, the case against Turkey will be heard in the RoC and judgments collected against Turkey in the EU member countries. Orams case will make it possible to get a judgement made in the RoC to be executed against Turkey in the rest of the EU countries where Turkey has assets. Once this case becomes a test case, then many others will be able to sue Turkey as well, including TCs like Lordo! :wink:

by **Pyrpolizer** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:In all reality, this case is no different than the Orams case, only this time the defendants are not the Orams as individuals, but Turkey as a state, and since the "trnc" has no assets and Turkey has deep pockets in the EU, the case against Turkey will be heard in the RoC and judgments collected against Turkey in the EU member countries. Orams case will make it possible to get a judgement made in the RoC to be executed against Turkey in the rest of the EU countries where Turkey has assets. Once this case becomes a test case, then many others will be able to sue Turkey as well, including TCs like Lordo!

The CyBc said the other day that something changed in the EU lately that made seizing of assets -in this case Turkish assets- becomes automatic without any further court decisions whereas in the Orams case it had to be verified by a British court.
We will see...
If this becomes a reality then there will be an avalanche of bricks falling on Turkey's head. Imagine she will not even be able to deposit money for her ambassadors in Europe.

And perhaps THIS COULD BRING THE SOLUTION WE ARE ALL SEEKING IN THIS FORUM :idea: